Very well put.I though something smelled a bit off with that comparison to Apollos. To bad the WT can't write as clearly as you do! But maybe that is part of the plan. plan.
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IS YOUR TEACHING UP-TO-DATE? - (WT Study Article for June 3-9, 2013)
by Oubliette inin the watchtower study article for last week, june 3rd - 9th, 2013, the congregation was asked the question, "is your teaching up-to-date?".
there was a box on the top of page 9 that asked three questions allowing everyone to test themselves and find out if they had "up-to-date" and "accurate knowledge" in keeping with the "the ever-increasing light" as revealed through the pages of the watchtower magazine and related publications.
now at first blush this all sounds really good, but is it?
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Awkward moment at the WT study today
by FadeToBlack inwhen we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
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Perhaps with regard to point # 2 (sheep and goats) someone could clear up the difference (if any) between separating and judging. It seems like in the 4/13 WT separating=judging. They occur at the same time. The 95 Wt seems to not use the word separating at all. Mostly judgment. So maybe, I am just out of touch. I must be holding the old view (pre 95) that the separating work had been going on since 1914 and the judgement would take place at the big A. No wonder I no longer have Jehovah' blessings. I am not keeping up with the chariot. I feel a gnashing of teeth coming on...
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Awkward moment at the WT study today
by FadeToBlack inwhen we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
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OK. I might have to amend my last statement after having actually read the October 95 Wt article cited. Perhaps the only significant difference is when the judging takes place - after the great tribulation breaks out which is intitiated by the UN turning against Babylon the great. I will try to reread both explanations again -hope my head doesn't explode!
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Awkward moment at the WT study today
by FadeToBlack inwhen we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
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Oubliette said: How does anything in the July 15, 2013 WT change any of the three points in the box at the top of the page in last week's Study Article?
As an example look at point #2 (Separating of the sheeps from the goats). Compare that with paragraph 11 in the July WT study article on page 6.
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Awkward moment at the WT study today
by FadeToBlack inwhen we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
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My apologies for the poor wording in the original description. I was not implying that the generation thing had also changed. Just that we had the awkward silence (on the generation) question and then we progressed to the next 2 points with old/new light.
The question for paragraph 8 was so tempting, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.
8: Briefly share a spiritual gem that you discovered in your Bible reading.
All of the answers were wt-approved. I wouldn't be suprised if the ones chosen to answer that were pre-selected. It just seems too risky.
We also had 1 paragraph where an older brother was going on about how much he read the bible but got cut-off when he paused to take a breath. But even without the microphone he kept on going for another 2 minutes. It was hilarious (if that is possible at he kh)...
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 06-09-2013 WT Study (READ BIBLE)
by blondie incomments you will not hear at the 06-09-2013 wt study (april 15, 2013, pages 7-11)(read bible).
4. what does it mean to read the bible in an undertone?.
1:6) how, then, are we to understand jesus words about this generation?
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I think your closing comments highlight the real issue. Many can't even recite what the current 'understanding' is, never mind defend it.
Can't wait to get to the July issue!
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Awkward moment at the WT study today
by FadeToBlack inwhen we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - is your teaching up-to-date?
the conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was.
for the first one, 'this generation (matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand!
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When we got to paragraphs 10,11 with the reference to the box at the top of the page - Is your teaching up-to-date? The conductor asked for an explanation of what the current 'bible truth' was. For the first one, 'this generation (Matt 24:34) absolutely nobody raised their hand! My wife had to leave for the restroom at that point. Finally some brave trooper answered the question by reading verbatim a 2 sentence explanation of current WT 'understanding'. Quick shuffle to the next points.
A couple of elders who obviously were aware of the 'new/new truths' in July WT were falling all over themselves trying to dance around the fact that what was printed in this issue as being up-to-date was in fact out of date!
At least it resulted in a nice discussion on the way home with the wife.
If I can just turn down the anger level a bit, this July issue could turn out very well for me (and lot's of others too I hope).
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Out of the mental cell stuck in the physical prison......no-win situation
by Kensho injdubs are fond of quoting peter "where are we to go lord"... well the answer for me has been this forum for last couple of years which is really sad because i should be able to talk to my lifelong friends instead of faceless avatars.
( don't get me wrong this place has helped me through some really rough times mentally kudos to terry, cedars,slimboyfat, blondie,jwfacts and many others.).
the shun gun has prevented me from making the move completely out of this cult i have given my life to.
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Also in the same boat. I think my wife is actually doing more jw related activities to try and counter-act my fade.
It is extremely frustrating. Keep in mind Billy's recent advice about 'anger management'. Something I need to work on for sure.
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CO's public talk is a 25min DVD
by BroMac inwe translate into all these languages.
even the ones that may seem small, like the blackfoot native american.
and when we go and take the message to them they just cant believe this is in their mother tongue.
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Apparently there was also a lot of encouragement to go to 3rd world countries where the need is greater (and you will experience more joy) but you have to count the cost (foot the bill yourself). No help from WTBT$. Nada. Nic. So strange since the work is so urgent. Couldn't they devote some of the funds from recent property sales in Brooklyn to sponsor a few families in Ecuador or Botswana? Really, how much would that even cost?
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I make a vow 2015 will be my last DC to attend ever !!!
by 5go ineven then it will be just be a sunday to see if the fall off come true, or not.. heck this year and next will probally just enough to make it look like i showed up for it.
thankfully i live around the city it's held in i so it's not a huge sacrafice..
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I missed last year, and woud like to miss this year, but may end up going on Saturday just to hear the 'Apostate' talks first hand.