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Prognoser
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Hot Ex-Dub Singer with an Awesome Sound!
by Diest inlyrics do have some swearing.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqqzg5bise.
from her website:.
i used to live in the smokey mountains of tennessee / now i live in los angelesi used to be a jehovah's witness / now i celebrate my birthday.
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WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?
by SnowQueen ini've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.
i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.
i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.
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How can you say that, mP? The Illuminati is based on revolution, liberation, immorality, and irrationality while the Church is based on God, strict self- and social control, morality, and rationality. Seems like a lot of differences to me.
Your second assertion is theosophical speculation—speculation tied to Illuminati thinkers. But this thread is about the Watchtower and the Illuminati, not Christianity and the Illuminati. Let's stick to the topic.
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WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?
by SnowQueen ini've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.
i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.
i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.
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Snow Queen, you're very welcome.
I definitely believe Russell was a Freemason, specifically a Knights Templar. I believe he was a knowing agent of the Illuminati sent to infiltrate and water down the Christian church with segregational and unBiblical teachings (he could have even been covertly grooming potential initiates for the occult). Russell was one of many Illuminati insurgents carrying out a highly organized, international plot against the Church. Ellen G. White, Joseph Smith, and Cyrus I. Scofield were other key Illuminist infiltrators of the Church during Russell's time. In my opinion, Scofield was the most lethal of the four, at least in British Commonwealth nations. I would say that Russell was the most lethal in the rest of the world, especially in Latin America.
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The Watchtower and the Masons
by ozziepost inthe latest edition of the free in christ ministries journal contains a very interesting article entitled the watchtower and masons.. drawing upon material from the book the watchtower & the masons by fritz springmeier, it gives the following parallels between the things that c t russell believed and those taught by the masons:.
* both believe jehovah is the most important word being the basis of their dogma, and the name of their god.
* both believe god yielded power to a lesser god.
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A snapshot of Edith Starr Miller's 1933 book, Occult Theocrasy, listing Charles Taze Russell as a Mason, signified by the three dots, in the book's index on page 737. It appears that the OCR reproduction of this book mispells Taze as "Laze". Miller writes of the IBSA and Russell starting on page 539.
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WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?
by SnowQueen ini've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.
i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.
i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.
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Prognoser
Good evening, Snow Queen. Your above quote is from Illuminati expert Fritz Springmeier. There is currently and active thread on this subject: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/8093/1/The-Watchtower-and-the-Masons (resources on pages 4 and 5 of this thread). You should be able to find enough resources and commentary there to perhaps answer your own question.
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Judge Rutherford Was Extremely Politically Neutral
by God_Delusion inhowdy guys and gals,.
yesterday i received an email from a jwb visitor which pointed me to the 1934 yearbook.
i was completely shocked to see just how politically neutral the 2nd president of the watchtower society really was.. here's the article - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jehovahs-witness-history/are-jehovahs-witnesses-politically-neutral/.
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Terry, according to Nixon from the Whitehouse tapes:
Later, alone with Colson, Nixon said, “Well, listen, are they all Jews over there?”
“Every one of them,” Colson said. “Well, a couple of exceptions.”
“See my point?”
“You know goddamn well they’re out to kill us.”
Before lunch, Nixon gave his chief of staff an order. “Now, point: [White House Personnel Director Frederic V.] Malek is not Jewish.”
“No,” H.R. “Bob” Haldeman said.
“All right, I want a look at any sensitive areas around where Jews are involved, Bob. See, the Jews are all through the government, and we have got to get in those areas. We’ve got to get a man in charge who is not Jewish to control the Jewish . . . do you understand?
“I sure do.”
“The government is full of Jews,” Nixon said. “Second, most Jews are disloyal. You know what I mean? You have a [White House Consultant Leonard] Garment and a [National Security Adviser Henry A.] Kissinger and, frankly, a [White House Speechwriter William L.] Safire, and, by God, they’re exceptions. But, Bob, generally speaking, you can’t trust the bastards. They turn on you.”
It would be more accurate to say that Jews couldn’t trust Nixon, that he turned on them. On July 24, 1971, he mentioned that Colson had found out sixteen BLS officials were registered Democrats, only one a registered Republican. “The point that he did not get into that I want to know, Bob, how many were Jews?” Nixon asked. “There’s a Jewish cabal, you know, running through this, working with people like [Fed Chairman] Burns and the rest. And they all only talk to Jews.”
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The Watchtower and the Masons
by ozziepost inthe latest edition of the free in christ ministries journal contains a very interesting article entitled the watchtower and masons.. drawing upon material from the book the watchtower & the masons by fritz springmeier, it gives the following parallels between the things that c t russell believed and those taught by the masons:.
* both believe jehovah is the most important word being the basis of their dogma, and the name of their god.
* both believe god yielded power to a lesser god.
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The Masonic Watchtowers – Enochian Magic
The Masonic Lodges are usually given a number and then are named after the location they are at. For instance, in Oregon something like 9 out of 10 lodges are named after the town that they are in. However, some of the lodges are named after famous Masons such as Franklin, Lafayette, and Washington. Others are named after Masonic themes Mystic Tie, Mystic Circle, Rising Sun, New Jerusalem, and Mizpah. Mizpah? What is Mizpah? The Watchtower Society tells us in the issue of the Godlen Age 3/26/24, p. 387, that Mizpah translates Watchtower. The Hebrew word Mizpah (also spelled Mizpeh, and Mitspeh) occurs only once in scripture. And the use of the word Mizpah among the Masons is interesting.
This author has located 4 Masonic chapters so far in the world that are named Mizpah, and three of these are in C.T. Russell’s area of Pennsylvania. These are all York Rite (R.A.M.-Royal Arch Masons) lodges like Russell belonged to. They are Mizpeh Chapter No. 288 R.A.M. of Allegheny, PA, Mizpah Chapter No. 252 R.A.M. Mahonoy City, PA, and the Mizpah Chapter 96 of the Grand Commandery of Knights Templar of PA.
What could be important enough to Masonry to call their lodges Watchtowers? The highest Masons, who get cryptic and mystic, are exposed to Enochian magic, where the use of the magical watchtowers is the key, the heart so to speak, of Enochian magic.
It is interesting to note that several of the Masons who founded new cults were fascinated in the name and person of Enoch, for instance Joseph Smith Jr. and Charles T. Russell.
Joseph Smith (Founder of Mormons LDS) gave himself the name Enoch, called his first community the City of Enoch, and created communal Order of Enoch. Further, Joseph Smith, following the Jewish pseudepigraphic Book of Enoch’s story, purports to narrate Enoch’s experiences in the Book of Moses. (Joseph Smith, as the reader remembers, wrote the Book of Moses.) Joseph Smith in fact believed that Freemasonry went back to Enoch. In Joseph Smith’s day it was popular for Masons to trace Freemasonry back to Enoch. It is not so much in vogue now.
Freemasons believed that the correct pronunciation of the sacred name of the Tetragrammaton had been revealed to Enoch. In Enochian magic the Tetragrammaton plays an important part. Each letter represents a different element.
“…Enoch may be considered as representative of that class of mankind which in the future will be in harmony with God and have eternal life—the ones who will be brought to perfection during the Millenial Age.”—Charles T. Russell, 1907.
Russell was careful not to exceed what he could appear to back with scripture, and he was not about to break his Masonic oath of secrecy and blab about Enoch and Enochian magic. However, Russell can still be recognized as having put an inordinate amount of emphasis on Enoch. For instance, Russell says what happened to Enoch “seems to be one of the secret things which Moses says belong unto God. Deut. 29:29” WT Apr. & May 1884. Russell pointed out on numerous occasions that Enoch was the 7 th man from Adam, and that this means he was the perfect man. This view was still coming out in the Watchtower as late as 1941. The WT Society has been fascinated by Enoch’s transformation, but have been variable in their explanation of it. In 1943, the WT Society tells us that “Enoch was put into a trance” That ‘God gave him a final vision of the New World…” and that when Heb. 11:5 says God “transferred him” that it meant God granted Enoch a vision of the New World. This was a change from Russell’s belief (based on speculation or something else?) that God likely took Enoch to another planet. Also that year, the WT Society tells us that Enoch was the first man to prophesy of Christ.
This is just a glimpse of Russell and the WT Society’s fascination with Enoch. Now we will discover what Enochian Magic is about.
The Magical Watchtowers
Twice a month, a magazine called the Watchtower goes out in 105 languages in about 13 million copies per issue. (Actually minor foreign language editions lag behind the English editions, so that the 13 million copies are not issued simultaneously.)
Yet no one has explained why Charles T. Russell chose the Watch Tower as the name and central idea of his new religion, many return-to-the-Bible movements, for instance, Campbell’s Church of Christ churches, have eschewed being associated with any symbology. The idea of the Watch Tower must have been very important to Russell for him to have situated it as the central symbol for his movement. Was he thinking that a tower towered him above others? Or was it because ancient Watch Towers could view approaching armies and thereby warn of approaching battles? Or was it chosen because Masons have been associated with building castles and cathedrals?
Each of these explanations put forth, has some merit. But there is another explanation. One that seems bizarre, in fact so bizarre that this author dismissed it until such time as he was able to confirm C.T. Russell’s Masonic membership.
C.T. Russell’s membership records in the Masonic Knights Templar are kept in Ireland. The Blue Lodge records belong to the Grand Lodge of PA. Lady Queensborough in her book Occult Theocracy published in 1933 notes on page 737 C.T. Russell’s Masonic membership. His Masonic membership must have also been common knowledge to those associated with him, and those acquainted with the prominence Russell gave to the Knights Templar logo. While there were no Adventist magazines prior to Russell’s ‘Watchtower’ magazine that used the word Watchtower, it appears that the Masonic magazine Mizpah could have served as example to Russell. The Masonic Mizpah magazine, and a Masonic article in an early Masonic Review with the title “Watchman what of the night” do prove a similarity here between that Masonic thinking and Russell’s magazine.
Evidence shows C.T. Russell was not only a high freemason, but prominent in their schemes, in other words he was a key player. Watchtowers are very important to the very highest Freemasons. The highest secret knowledge of many Masonic rites including such rites as the Scottish Rite, the Rite of Memphis, the Rite of Mizraim, etc. is concentrated in a high level group of Illuminati. One group of the Illuminati is the O.T.O. The initials O.T.O. can stand for several names, one being Ordo Templi Orientis (The Order of Oriental Templars). Its esoteric name is Order of To Ov. Its members also have been referred to as the Great White Brotherhood or Atlantean Adepts, and have worked with the B’nai B’rith. There are four separate groups of OTO lodges, each contains hard core occultists.
The OTO Illuminati teach their select group of initiates Hermetic Science (occult knowledge), magick (called Holy Magick of Light), Mysticism, and Yoga of all forms. The OTO during C.T. Russell’s lifetime established in every important metropolitan area, including New York, a secret hidden centre (Collegium ad Spiritum Santum) where members could carry out their “great work” concealed without interference.
However, each Illuminatus is nothing if he is not able to practice the Magick that gives him a knowledge of the Watchtowers and the ability to enter the four Watchtowers.
Is this bizarre? Why doesn’t C.T. Russell mention any of this in his writings?
This author must without reservation remind the reader that C.T. Russell would never have mentioned anything of his higher esoteric Masonic knowledge to anyone. The penalties for revealing such higher secrets are harsh. This author knows of some cases where men who talked were killed. Obviously, without presenting any proof on that point, the reader is simply advised that the higher echelons in the esoteric group of Illuminism rarely lose their initiates, because they are so sold out/and trapped in their allegiance to the occult world.
C.T. Russell was in the public eye. Everything he published was with the public eye in mind. No one should expect to find any notes or slips about Masonic activities or beliefs in Russell’s writings. As with all occult organizations a veil of secrecy is maintained by requiring initiates to take secrecy oaths on penalty of death. As in Witchcraft, Masonry repeatedly demands secrecy oaths at every new level. Charles T. Russell began participating in this secrecy when he took the Entered Apprentice (first Masonic degree) oath on penalty of mayhem and violent death, “I…do hereby and hereon most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear that I will always hail, ever conceal and never reveal any of the arts, parts or points of the secret arts and mysteries of ancient Freemasonry which I received, am about to receive, or may hereafter be instructed in…”
C.T. Russell followed a policy of backing everything he said with Bible verses. If he could not establish a point by twisting Scripture in some fashion, or using some type of reasoning, then he would generally avoid publishing the point. What needs then to be looked for are occultic strains of thought that seeped into his bible explanation, because they had a possible Scriptural explanation. There are a number of statements by Russell that are clues and evidence of ties to the magic of Watchtowers.
WHAT ARE THE MAGICAL WATCHTOWERS?
Watchtowers are regions of the Magical Universe. The type of Magic that uses these regions is called Enochian Magick.
According to occultists, Magic is merely the use of hidden laws to bring about the will. Every person has a spark of divinity—a inner God, also called an angel or Holy Guardian Angel. The Magician is to get in touch with his Angel—his divinity. This is where his knowledge of the Watchtowers is helpful. Enochian Magick claims for itself two unique elements: an original language and the map of the indivisible worlds. The Indivisible worlds are known as the Magical Universe. The map of this Magical Universe contains 4 Enochian regions called Watchtowers. These are the Watchtower of Fire, the Watchtower of Air, the Watchtower of Water, and the Watchtower of Earth. These 4 regions are often symbolized in ancient esoteric manuscripts. The following are the 7 planes and their regions on the map.
Occult planes Enochian Regions
Divine…
Spiritual….. Table of Union
Casual……. Watchtower of Fire
Mental……. Watchtower of Air
Astral…….. Watchtower of Water
Etheric…… Watchtower of Earth
Physical…
Should all the bodies of the planes (except for the physical) be collectively taken together, the Magician calls this the Body of Light. New Age, Masonic, and Rosicrucian Magicians will then speak in terms of leaving their bodies and entering into the Watchtowers (the Body of Light). To be an advanced magician, you must be able to enter the Watchtowers.
It is an established fact the Illuminists all learn this Magic and practice it.
An example of how esoteric knowledge then became associated with the royal house of Guise and Lorraine (which is part of the 13 th Illuminati bloodline) is that the first edition of Corpus hermeticum (pub. In 1549) was dedicated to Charles de Guise, the Cardinal of Lorraine and brother of Marie de Guise, who married James V of Scotland and who bore Mary Queen of Scots.
Under the cover of being zealous Catholics, the house of Guise and Lorraine spread esoteric knowledge. Men like Sir William Sinclair (of the 13 th Illuminati bloodline) imported the esoteric knowledge into Scotland. Another figure was the Scotsman, James Beaton, the Scottish ambassador to France, who was also the former Archbishop of Glasgow and who worked with the house of Guise and Lorraine.
—Fritz Springmeier, Be Wise As Serpents
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The Watchtower and the Masons
by ozziepost inthe latest edition of the free in christ ministries journal contains a very interesting article entitled the watchtower and masons.. drawing upon material from the book the watchtower & the masons by fritz springmeier, it gives the following parallels between the things that c t russell believed and those taught by the masons:.
* both believe jehovah is the most important word being the basis of their dogma, and the name of their god.
* both believe god yielded power to a lesser god.
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Prognoser
Another Springmeier book (over 600 pages) that covers the greater occult implications
The Occult Roots of the Jehovah's Witnesses
Read the eye-opening, Be Wise As Serpents (free online .PDF book).
By the way, Springmeier is a free man today. Was released from prison late last year. Here is his blog: http://pentracks.com/blog/
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The Watchtower and the Masons
by ozziepost inthe latest edition of the free in christ ministries journal contains a very interesting article entitled the watchtower and masons.. drawing upon material from the book the watchtower & the masons by fritz springmeier, it gives the following parallels between the things that c t russell believed and those taught by the masons:.
* both believe jehovah is the most important word being the basis of their dogma, and the name of their god.
* both believe god yielded power to a lesser god.
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Prognoser
More on the tetragrammaton and its significance to Freemasonry and Illuminism as the "lost word."
The magical hexagram
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Judge Rutherford Was Extremely Politically Neutral
by God_Delusion inhowdy guys and gals,.
yesterday i received an email from a jwb visitor which pointed me to the 1934 yearbook.
i was completely shocked to see just how politically neutral the 2nd president of the watchtower society really was.. here's the article - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jehovahs-witness-history/are-jehovahs-witnesses-politically-neutral/.
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@Terry
In Rutherford's letter to Hitler he presents the idea (sure to please Hitler, he thinks) that Jews are trouble makers and opressers. This Anti-Semetic rant was identical to Adolph Hitler who was using it as a pretext to round up Jews and scape goat them. Siding with Adolf Hitler is hardly neutrality.
This reminds me of similar sentiments confied to then U.S. President Richard Nixon by evangelist Billy Graham. Meanwhile, Graham officially praised the Jews and Zionism, as did Nixon, whose cabinet was over-represented by Jews (see Whitehouse Nixon tapes for more). And with the heavy Zionist influence in the Watchtower (B'nai Brith, Natheer Salih, etc.), it's likely that Rutherford's personal feelings on the Jews were just and only that.
