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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

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  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  tornapart, I used to be a futurist but now fall more in line with the historicist, partial-preterist camp. From my research, futurism, specifically premillenial dispensationalism, is an Illuminati doctrine. The creator of this doctrine, a convicted criminal named Cyrus Scofield, was not only a contemporary of religious Illuminist agents Charles Taze Russell and Joseph Smith, he also had the same financial support. See The Incredible Scofield and His Book, by Joseph Canfield (http://www.scribd.com/doc/54737546/The-Incredible-Scofield-and-His-Book). To further support this view, there is a command in either the Talmud or the Kabbalah to mislead outsiders as to the timing of the 70 weeks. Obviously, a futurist view of the 70 Weeks naturally results in a Zionist political and religious outlook. Dispensationalism pretty much hinges on a futurist intepretation of the Weeks, specifically Daniel 9:27.

  Further reading: The Seventy Weeks and the Great Tribulation, Phillp Mauro http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/pdf/1921_mauro_seventyweeks.pdf
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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  I am tempted to say 1785 when it was infiltrated and broken up.

  Can you be more specific? Who infiltrated it? How was it broken up? The onus is on you, bohm, since you are the one claiming they don't exist. Since the Illuminati's existence is part of the historical record, the onus is not on us to prove their existence, unless you can amply demonstrate they ceased operations, in which case, we would have to provide evidence of their continued existence.

  tornapart, what eschatology do you subscribe to if I may ask?
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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  Prognoser

  Yep, aposate thunder. Even the The United States House of Representatives Select Committee on Assassinations admitted that JFK was likely assasinated as a result of a conspiracy. Anyone who still thinks Lee Harvey was a disturbed lone assasin who shot Kennedy is drinking kool aid. JFK was obviously too much of a threat to the Illuminati establishment, so they offed him.

  bohm, again, when and how was the Illuminati disbanded?
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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  We are getting off topic here, bohm. I didn't say JFK wasn't referring to the Bay of Pigs, but his comments were likely a veiled reference to a greater threat that he was fully aware of. JFK knew he was being targeted by the "monolithic conspiracy." You don't try to disband the CIA, stop the war, expose Israel's nuclear proliferation, and try to end the Federal Reserve without fear of reprisal. JFK wasn't an idiot. He knew what it all meant, and it got him killed. And JFK likely knew that the Communists within the U.S. government were a greater threat than the Soviets or the Cubans, and this is probably the real cause for his warnings to the people. The Bay of Pigs is minor by comparison. I don't think JFK brushed aside McCarthy's warnings, despite being a democrat. Then, later, Nixon—who ran against JFK—echoes the same sentiments.... It's time to wake up.

  Presidents have to be very careful in the words these choose to use when addressing the public. It's no coincidence that George HW Bush publicly called for a "New World Order" ten years to the day (Sept. 11, 1991) before his son would find the necessary pretext to implement it. Kennedy wasn't just carelessly tossing about "secret socities" and "conspiracy" in his speeches. It was a clear warning of the coup d'etat about to take place.
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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  But bohm, you appear to believe that the Illuminati are a fictional group, which is preposertous in light of the voluminous amounts of evidence to the contrary. Then you argued that they don't exist today. What is your evidence for that? When and how were they disbanded? So all the Illuminati symbolism in movies, music, etc is all a conspiracy to make us believe in the false Illuminati conspiracy? Talk about conspiracy theories.
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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  It's not necessarily the best evidence I could come up with, it just happened to be readily available and relevant to the dispute over Torn's quote. JFK also talked about secrecy and secret societies. How was that related to the Bay of Pigs (or maybe it was)?
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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  Bohm, don't you think it is a little evasive to focus on on something inconclusive rather than something conclusive about the same subject matter? JFK's speech speaks for itself, yet you want to focus on some quote from some book form who knows when. Now you are are ridiculing the video series, which weren't even directed at you.
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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  Bohn, did you listen to the JFK speech posted above? Does it not corroborate the false (inconclusive) quote? So what's the problem? JFK's speech above is conclusive!

  BTW, I'm sure torn was uanware the quote was false. It was an honest mistake. Give the guy a break.
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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  Whatthehadas, Vigilant Citizen is a good site. It is dedicated to exposing Illuminati symbolism in the entertainment and sporting industries.

  There are two really good video series on Youtube exposing this. One is called "The Industry"—some 78 parts or so—and "Wake Up".

  Wake Up Part 40, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbMcYoPqMF4&list=UUe9cdc2mYuGLssO7RhCSHdw&index=10

  The Industry - Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mkemhw1T04

  I started at the Sharon Tate Illuminati sacrifice, part 74

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkqvzSDPLDo
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  WT and the Illuminati - truth or fiction?

  by SnowQueen in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i've been reading around this subject of late and it seems to make a lot of sense.

  i'm wondering if anyone is convinced and/or has seen anything that can substantiate or corroborate the 'facts' set out in these arguments.. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/russell.htm.

  i was particularly fascinated to read the following:.

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  Prognoser

  Bohm, you had expressed concern over a false quote attributed to Kennedy. Although it was a false quote, there was truth to it, as can be demonstrated by Kennedy's above speech. That raises the question. How many other false quotes, concepts are based in truth? I guess all I am saying is don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

  I don't believe the following is a false quote:

  "The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover