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move to reinstate national service for jehovahs witnessesdefence committee chair jussi niinisto says the preferential treatment granted to jehovahs witnesses is difficult to rationalise to other conscientious objectors.

a kingdom hall is a place of worship used by jehovah's witnesses.

image: yle jussi niinisto, who chairs parliaments defence committee, is demanding that the military service exemption granted to the jehovahs witnesses be abolished.

Kaiser

Yeah but the joke is: civilian service in Finland doesn´t have connection to military. It is under ministry of employment supervision.

But elder i asked it about told me otherwise: civilian service is under military supervision and so it´s against jehovah´s principles. You cannot do any kind of of alternative service, ie. working in hospital, school, etc.

However, officer of employment agency told me its absolutely false information.

Well lied elders :)

Most of the people cannot flee to Aland as people there speak swedish and it´s quite impossible to live there without knowing language. :D

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Finland: move to reinstate national service for JWs

by behemot in

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move to reinstate national service for jehovahs witnessesdefence committee chair jussi niinisto says the preferential treatment granted to jehovahs witnesses is difficult to rationalise to other conscientious objectors.

a kingdom hall is a place of worship used by jehovah's witnesses.

image: yle jussi niinisto, who chairs parliaments defence committee, is demanding that the military service exemption granted to the jehovahs witnesses be abolished.

Kaiser

"It will propably make no problem whatsoever as witnesses no longer object to civilian service"

Actually it will be problem. It´s not permitted for jw cause civilian service is under military supervision. Or so one elder told me(lied).

I know many brothers who are in "the truth" just because without it, they would have to go military/civilian service.

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I got sick message from my brother :/

by Kaiser in

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at first i must apologize my english, im not native speaker.. .

during the last two years i ve been studying without watchtower publications and it really opened my eyes.. i think i made a mistake to tell my findings about the "truth" to my brother.. here s the translation of email i got from him.... .

"howdyhau you gay*****, i have confessed all my sins and im trying to get rid of them.

Kaiser

Thanks for replies guys, appriciate it.

And sorry, i forget to mention that i received this mail about 3 months ago. During that time i was

too broken to tell my story anywhere. Here´s the aftermath.

I sent it forward to one elder of my congregation and also to my mother. Next morning i got

mail from my brother. He was sorry and told that he didn´t even remember sending those as

he was really drunk

I did forgive him. You see, i love him and there is no way i could cause problems to him.

I also told him that i send it forward to mom and *elders name* and there could be consequences.

And what happens next? He hacked inside mom´s email and delete the mail before my mom could read it!

Elder contacted me, said that email was horrible and did not have clue who could it be.

I replied: you dont have to be Einstein to figure it out.

Well in the end my brother confessed. Two elders visited his home and they got my mail printed.

When they asked about smoking&betting, he lied and said it was something he did back in

junior highschool. And thats it! Then they start asking about my faith! There was no consequences for

my brother.

I dont really get him. He gamble, smoke´s etc. On the other side of coin he regularly attends

meetings and activities. Maybe thats why he is drinking so much, living in conflict..

But im not gonna talk about religious thing with him, could get another similar mail...

During this episode i was travelling abroad. So, coupple days before homecoming, i sent email

to same elder, that i dont want any shepherds into my house. Luckily they have respected my wishes

and left me in peace... so far.

Currently, im walking on the razor´s edge. I have wordly girlfriend and im intend to keep it secret.

And as much i would like to leave this cult -which has caused me lot of pain since i was born- i

have some really good witnesses friends, i want them to get their eyes opened too.

Oh and there is board for ex-jw for my language. Problem is, there is not much witnesses in this

country and i have reliable knowledge that elders are monitoring it. I rather write my story here.

btw. how do i change my avatar? That flying spaghettimonster looks so stupid...

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I got sick message from my brother :/

by Kaiser in

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at first i must apologize my english, im not native speaker.. .

during the last two years i ve been studying without watchtower publications and it really opened my eyes.. i think i made a mistake to tell my findings about the "truth" to my brother.. here s the translation of email i got from him.... .

"howdyhau you gay*****, i have confessed all my sins and im trying to get rid of them.

Kaiser

Well i got my aunt, she is only one. Family been shunning every other relative cause they are wordly people.

Other members are perfectly brainwashed, no change to convict them.

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I got sick message from my brother :/

by Kaiser in

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friends

at first i must apologize my english, im not native speaker.. .

during the last two years i ve been studying without watchtower publications and it really opened my eyes.. i think i made a mistake to tell my findings about the "truth" to my brother.. here s the translation of email i got from him.... .

"howdyhau you gay*****, i have confessed all my sins and im trying to get rid of them.

Kaiser

Hi to all!

At first i must apologize my english, im not native speaker.

During the last two years i´ve been studying without watchtower publications and it really opened my eyes.

I think i made a mistake to tell my findings about the "truth" to my brother.

Here´s the translation of email i got from him...

"howdyhau you gay*****, i have confessed all my sins and im trying to get rid of them. (smoking, betting etc.)

Suck it. It´s going to be rough for you when you come back. I really hate you from bottom of my heart (pity that our father

didn´t kill you like he wanted to do), i will do everything necessary to make things as bad as they could be for you.

I hope you will die there so i dont have to suffer cause of apostateshit like you. Im not good example myself, but

convertershit like you, im definetly not.

HOPE YOU DIE"

Well, at least he remembered how i was threatened to die by my jw father when i was a little kid..