more than one thing for me, but i have learned to enjoy festivals, and just enjoying free time.
it's not that the org wouldn't allow it, i just felt i shouldn't.
there are others, of course, and i really have been happier and good things have come my way since i left.
My BSc in my forties.
My baby girl after pioneering and nearly leaving it too late.
My little house with a garden at last!
Florence, Paris, Niagara Falls, Rome, Lake Como, New York, Montreal, The Alhambra in Spain, Greek Islands.
Our first Christmas, poignant and lovely.
My daughter as Mary in the school nativity play aged five.
I couldn't choose just one. Thanks for asking Jeannette, I need reminding just how lucky I am.
so, i have been thinking...what is the formula or recipe for the "perfect jw"?.
here are a few points i thought of...please feel free to add!.
always dress in the jw manner...no variation in clothing / hair styles / facial hair.
People who are proud of being ignorant and never having read a book. Those who have never had an original thought, looked up a word they don't know or googled something they didn't understand. People used to walk in our house and just stare wide-eyed at our books. One JW said books made him nervous.
have you ever heard that statement?
i have heard it many times and i just don't know what to do with it.
they are chosing a to live a lie because they like the lifestyle.
When my friend said this I said am I supposed to stop my child going to university? Does the best way of life mean she has to sacrifice her good brain, do menial work and live in near poverty as I did pioneering? When she said they are the most moral people I said have you heard of Candace Conti?
josh here, new to the board.
glad to know this site is here.. i would not be writing this if it were not 2014. i was a ministerial servant and regular pioneer who left the jehovahs witnesses back in 1995/96, around that time.
i left suddenly, didnt fade away, just left when something clicked one day in my head during the morning shower and made me realize this religion wasnt true.
Hi Josh same thing happened to me when I looked at this forum two years ago, I left in '89. Overlapping generations! A different Watchtower for the public. More partakers at the memorial and numbers still rising! My brother and sisters swallowed all of this and are still there, can't get my head around it.
"from time to time, there have arisen from among the ranks of jehovah's people those, who, like the original satan, have adopted an independent, faultfinding attitude...they say that it is sufficient to read the bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home.
but, strangely, through such 'bible reading,' they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by christendom's clergy were teaching 100 years ago.
the watchtower, aug. 15, 1981.. .
Yes BSB it was at a circuit assembly in mid-eighties I first heard we could not study just the Bible with people anymore. Shocked, so much so I phoned a friend in another circuit who confirmed they had the same talk. Loud alarm bells rang that day.
i loved this guy, he was cool and now i found out his website domain is up for sale.
what happened to greg, is he still alive and doing well?
did he return to the organization, any information would be appreciated!.
watching the world.
''every year, nearly 3 million babies die within the first month of life, most from preventable causes.
more than a third of these babies die on their first day of life" - save the children international.
This religion infuriates me! How ridiculous to quote statistics from a charity that has been saving children's lives with donations from ordinary people since 1919. Eglantyne Jebb found out that German and Austrian children were starving because of the devastation of WWI and she asked ordinary people to donate money to their former enemy country, which they did!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eglantyne_Jebb
Ordinary people have been opening their hearts and donating to complete strangers for the entire time the JWs have been preaching the destruction of all the men, women and children who don't agree with them. Good people are doing something about this world instead of whining about the problems. These charities are there in every conflict, every earthquake, every natural disaster. They exist because human suffering moves the hearts of decent ordinary people. Stop whining about the state of the world Watchtower, get your wallet out.
watching the world.
''every year, nearly 3 million babies die within the first month of life, most from preventable causes.
more than a third of these babies die on their first day of life" - save the children international.
WATCHING THE WORLD
''Every year, nearly 3 million babies die within the first month of life, most from preventable causes. More than a third of these babies die on their first day of life" - Save the Children International
So do they encourage people to give to Save the Children to buy medicines and to finance immunisation programs? No they prevented JWs from giving to charity at least they did when I was there. These fat cats of an American publishing company know that these kids are dying but do nothing.
go ahead.
tell me.. "i've read the bible cover to cover.
i don't believe you.. it is damned near impossible!.
Terry you seem baffled why we care what you said well for me I think it was the last straw. I've seen people talk about 'piousneers' who lied about their hours and 'elderettes' who don't give a damn about anyone. As a regular pioneer who started doing 100 hours a month and never lied about my hours and an elder's wife who tried really hard to help people being told I lied about reading the Bible finished me off.
I read it cover to cover so as not to be a hypocrite when I knocked on doors trying to teach it. I'm not alone, many pioneers and elders/wives on this site have hinted how hard they worked. FFS why should we be ashamed of actually being genuine even if we were misguided!
go ahead.
tell me.. "i've read the bible cover to cover.
i don't believe you.. it is damned near impossible!.
For those who say they read the Bible (cover to cover) how many of you believe what you read?
Terry I don't believe it at all now. As a JW, when I read the Bible from cover to cover as a young woman in my twenties, I thought it was full of sex and violence. Women being offered for gang rape, Lot's daughters I remember in particular and the woman who was gang raped and then chopped into little pieces and her parts sent to the twelve tribes of Israel. Was that the one where the men were then forcibly circumcised and then murdered when they were recovering? Or perhaps that was another story. Very bloody I thought.
I could never undersand why woman were treated the way they were by men in the Bible or even why the whole subjection and headship thing was right when I have always believed in my bones that men and women are equal. I thought Jehovah would explain it to me in the new system. Lol!
As for the New Testament, I vividly remember trying to get to grips with this person called Jesus through his words and actions but the strong impression I was always left with was that there is nobody there! Couldn't find him. That really confused me as a JW but all of this added more doubts to all the other doubts that were slowly mounting up.
