It's a strange thing but if a JW was asked what they believe by a mental health professional they could say they believe Jesus is their invisible King and any day now he's going to kill everyone on earth who isn't a JW. That isn't delusional according to the DSM. They can even say they talk to invisible people and that's ok too. The criteria for having a mental health problem is you must think the invisible people are talking to you. However you can talk to them all day long and you are perfectly well, just religious.
Xanthippe
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RELIGION AND MENTAL ILLNESS!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS ini have have come to realize most "rank and file" jw's are mentally unstable-to-ill and here is why.... http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mental-issues.php.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/religious_delusion.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/religion_and_schizophrenia.
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Why I like Jehovah's Witnesses
by undercover witness ini keep reading that jehovah's witnesses are in effect monsters.
i keep reading that they kinda leave chaos and distrust in their wake.
so i simply wondered if anyone had anything nice to say about them?.
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Xanthippe
A work colleague asked me yesterday how my mother being a JW and my father not converting affected them. Very badly I said, it ruined their marriage, which had a huge effect on their four children. Ever spent time in a tiny house with two miserable people? Try doing it for twenty years.
The religion breaks up marriages. Or rather because of its divorce rules it makes couples stay together who are desperately miserable and ruins precious childhood years. You like this religion? You know nothing.
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RELIGION AND MENTAL ILLNESS!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS ini have have come to realize most "rank and file" jw's are mentally unstable-to-ill and here is why.... http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/mental-issues.php.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/religious_delusion.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/religion_and_schizophrenia.
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Not to mention the effects it has on the rest of the body apart from the brain. My cousin has never been in the JWs and I heard from her that one of my sisters has fibromyalgia, ME and now a stomach ulcer. My other sister has type 2 diabetes but then she is about 20 stone. My brother is piling on the weight and was sloshing down the booze at my cousins wedding anniversary party. Happiest people in the world
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dozens of copies of CoC
by Xanthippe inthere are dozens of copies of crisis of conscience on this site abebooks.co.uk, second hand from 4. .
they are shipped from the us but although there is a us version of this site i can't find it on the search function no matter what i put in.. anyway for my fellow brits cheap copies here: - .
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/searchresults?an=raymond+franz&sts=t&tn=crisis+of+conscience.
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Love that picture Watchtowerfree. Yes just to reiterate what Doc says if you are lurking and you haven't read it yet please do. If you have been told Ray Franz was a GBmember who left and then wrote an apostate book that got him disfellowshipped that is not true .
He was disfellowshipped ostensibly for eating a meal with a close friend who was disassociated. The real reason being he had been on the research committee for a book called Aid to Bible Understanding and he realised the 'seven times' prophecy taking us from 607BCE to 1914 was wrong. Obviosly he couldn't keep quiet about that, being an honest man, so they got rid of him. It was later he wrote this book. Do read It.
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dozens of copies of CoC
by Xanthippe inthere are dozens of copies of crisis of conscience on this site abebooks.co.uk, second hand from 4. .
they are shipped from the us but although there is a us version of this site i can't find it on the search function no matter what i put in.. anyway for my fellow brits cheap copies here: - .
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/searchresults?an=raymond+franz&sts=t&tn=crisis+of+conscience.
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There are dozens of copies of Crisis of Conscience on this site abebooks.co.uk, second hand from £4.
They are shipped from the US but although there is a US version of this site I can't find it on the search function no matter what I put in.
Anyway for my fellow Brits cheap copies here: -
http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=Raymond+franz&sts=t&tn=Crisis+of+conscience
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What do YOU desperately need, but you've been putting it off?
by TerryWalstrom ini don't know why, but i put off getting a haircut way longer than i should.. i might go as long as 5 or 6 months between haircuts.. i desperately need a haircut.. what do you desperately need, but you've been putting it off?.
(disclaimer: minimus is going to be jealous.
this sort of question is his tradmark :).
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A mojito sounds delicious. With white rum I also love a a piña colada. Rum, pineapple juice and coconut juice. I want mine with a sparkler
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What do YOU desperately need, but you've been putting it off?
by TerryWalstrom ini don't know why, but i put off getting a haircut way longer than i should.. i might go as long as 5 or 6 months between haircuts.. i desperately need a haircut.. what do you desperately need, but you've been putting it off?.
(disclaimer: minimus is going to be jealous.
this sort of question is his tradmark :).
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Xanthippe
I really need to do something different with my hair but I keep putting it off and having the same style. Thinking of maybe an orange Mohican, what do you think?
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inheritance
by truthseeker100 ini have a good life and i am now worth around 3 million us.
my two children have their university degrees and a promising future.
what should i do with my money?
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3rd Gen DF'd finally writing
by AFreeBeliever ini've been reading many of the postings on this forum for a couplefew years, finally joined today.
i think reading cappytan, and others like that, compelled me to share, it seems i might have a bit of a different outcome than many i have read, perhaps it will be hopeful/helpful to someone.. i was a born-in, 3rd gen jw, my entire family (parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and most all of my childhood friends) were in.
some dropped by the wayside as the years went on, but many stayed in, and if they didn't, they still acted/talked as if they believed it was "the truth" and it was their weaknesses/failings that made them stop attending.
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Welcome and thanks for sharing your story. I am not going to tell you what to believe just please keep reading, thinking and questioning. You don't have to decide anything yet while you're still 'limping'. Once you settle on a belief system what room is there for new ideas?
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We are not the only ones who have lost our faith
by Xanthippe init is not unusual to lose faith in the religion that you're born into.
i actually think it's quite common to move away from you parents' belief system and find that you are a different kind of person to many members of your family.
i have read in national newspapers of famous people including politicians who have left the faith of their birth and found family relationships very difficult, some of them have even been shunned by family.. quite often in local newspapers i see books for sale from one individual about eastern religions, philosophy, evolution and so on.
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Yes it's true if you do go to a therapist or counsellor they do have experience of people leaving all sorts of religions and coping with the fallout from their families. I remember talking to my doctor, who is Indian, about it and he wasn't at all surprised that my family shun me. He may have been through the same thing himself.