Posts by Xanthippe

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Quick introduction

by OzGirl in

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only have a few minutes to spare so thought i would throw this together.. been in for about 30 years.

questions and doubts gathered over that time.

i have a keen interest in the legal and financial matters of the watchtower.. came across this site about 5 years ago.

Xanthippe

The Watchtower Society bases its "new light" concept on the scripture at Proverbs 4:18 ("The path of the righteous one gets brighter....") Where is the scriptural precedent to show that Jehovah gave false information as a temporary, stop-gap solution until the true and accurate information was made available?
The context of Proverbs chapter 4 is a comparison between the path of the righteous one and the path of the wicked one. It isn't about prophecy. - OzGirl

Absolutely right, I've pointed this out before. Proverbs 4:18 is about the life of a righteous person becoming lighter because they are doing the right thing and the life of a wicked person becoming darker because they do wicked things. Not rocket science is it? It's not about prophecy starting off dark and becoming easier to understand. As ever they take a verse completely out of context.

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Should I go to college or pioneer??? Hmmmm...

by ADJUSTMENTS in

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hmmmmm... i can't decide???.

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Xanthippe

I agree they don't deserve honesty having lied to millions of people for over a hundred years. Play the game, just don't get caught while trying to fade if you need to keep in with JW family that's all I was saying.

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Should I go to college or pioneer??? Hmmmm...

by ADJUSTMENTS in

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hmmmmm... i can't decide???.

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Xanthippe

There is no reason why you couldn't manufacture 90 hours a month while going to college.

Although people might find it strange you are never out in FS wouldn't they? Just sayin....

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Should I go to college or pioneer??? Hmmmm...

by ADJUSTMENTS in

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hmmmmm... i can't decide???.

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Xanthippe

Go to college, have fun, learn stuff, qualify for a decent job to give you a decent standard of living, travel, explore, create.

or

Be a cabbage for Jesus and live in poverty.

Hmm tough choice.

Oh and Morpheus before you pipe up again it's satire, I know.

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Will my inactive JW bring our children up as a witness?

by stevepill in

i have been with an in active jw for 6 years, she now wants to marry and have a child, will she want to bring a child up as a witness, she says not but any experiences?

will she start go back once we are married?

(i'm a non jw)

Xanthippe

Am I wasting my life on this rubbish?!

I am so sorry but if she is so afraid of Armageddon that she still attends the Memorial and panics when it thunders she will raise your children as JWs. When a woman becomes a mother all she can think about is that baby's survival. It's why we have been so successful as a species.

If to your partner survival still means appeasing Jehovah, you know what she will do. I am sorry this is so hard but you really need to talk to her about what she believes now. Good luck.

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Seriously, Why Can’t Jehovah’s Witness Women Wear Pants?

by Watchtower-Free in

i found this.

http://jwvictims.org/2014/02/05/seriously-why-cant-jehovahs-witness-women-wear-pants/.

seriously, why cant jehovahs witness women wear pants?.

Xanthippe

They quote the Mosaic law whenever it suits them, women should not dress like men from Deuteronomy something - who cares which verse.They are not under the Law of Moses why the heck do they keep using it?

Why don't they keep the sabbath too? When I was in Sundays were completely exhausting, FS and meeting on the same day. Are they going to start putting rebellious teenagers to death too as in the Law?

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Do Jehovah's Witnesses Shun?

by lurkernomore in

just checked the faq on jw.org as i wanted to show a df'd friend of ours how dishonest they were being about thier shunning policy.. well don't you know they've only gone and got honest about shunning df'd ones:.

'we do not automatically disfellowship someone who commits a serious sin.

if, however, a baptized witness makes a practice of breaking the bibles moral code and does not repent, he or she will be shunned or disfellowshipped.

Xanthippe

The difference is that people who leave because they can't accept the teachings anymore are not breaking the Bible's moral code but they are still shunned. Bet it doesn't say that on JW.BOrg.

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Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

by Watchtower-Free in

alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

over 2 minutes of pranking .

as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

Xanthippe

I just think why didn't he use the opportunity to ask one question perhaps about overlapping generations or Candace Conti, just to record the reaction for the web? Yoga pants? Just a wasted opportunity.

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Jehovahs Chariot ... as driven by the GB

by Simon in

someone mentioned "jehovahs chariot is on the move" on another topic and i immediately had flashbacks to those articles where they tried to explain how a chariot could have wheels that went in every direction and also had eyes, something idiotic.. i had a chuckle because the image that then popped into my head when i thought about those wheels going every direction was not one of those clever honda devices with the clever wheel thingy - no, it was a supermarket trolley.

you know the ones where one or two of the wheels wobbly and have a mind of their own and typically want to veer off suddenly into an elaborate display of tinned food?.

that is jehovahs chariot as driven by the governing body.

Xanthippe

When I hear that expression keeping up with Jehovah's chariot it makes me angry because phrases like that are all about go faster, faster, you are falling behind. How could anyone on foot keep up with a chariot unless they ran like hell?

So many of these kind of phrases are designed to make people feel they are too slow, not doing enough. Do you remember that kingdom song that had the phrase 'quicken the pace' in it and other phrases about doing more and doing it faster. Can't remember which one it was now. Words set to music are even more dangerous because they go straight into the unconscious mind.

Is it any wonder these people are burnt out, exhausted and constantly ill?

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Holidays?

by Garrett in

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not sure where to post this, so i posted here.

i was wondering, since your coming out of the organization, have any of you decided to start celebrating certain holidays?.

thanks, peace and love.

Xanthippe

Hi Garrett, I left 26 years ago and I do join in with most of the holidays now. The first year we didn't celebrate Christmas because we still thought of it as being of pagan origin, but we put up a tree and bought each other little presents the following year. Now I buy Easter eggs, birthday presents and I let my daughter go to Halloween parties.

Why? I was so damaged growing up as a JW and not being able to join in holidays at school. We are social animals, we need other people. I decided to let my daughter feel normal, not weird, 'no part of the world'! We are a part of the world, trying to be separate was very bad for us psychologically.

Does it matter that things have pagan or even Christian origins? I no longer believe in God and I see religion anthropologically, it was part of the development of humanity, it helped people cope with the harsh realities of life.

It's fun being'normal' and joining in. Many holidays have become commercialised but I just join in as much as I want to and leave whatever I don't like. I can also be relaxed at work during holidays, give cards, eat mince pies, have a birthday drink with colleagues, go to the Christmas party. As an ex- JW it has made my life so much easier now.