I'm really glad that Riley is ok and that you got to find out about her to put your mind at rest. Australia is so different from the UK it amazes me. Here they would have 'sectioned' her, detained her in a psychiatric ward for at least 28 days. Australia seems to be much more forward thinking that the UK as regards mental health. Thanks for sharing this story.
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Riley is okay.
by umbertoecho ini went looking for riley last friday and i found out exactly what i wanted to know.
i know it is not policy and all that.
i just had this strong feeling that i would find the right "someone" to tell me.. it was a receptionist (they get locked in their stations when it gets crazy) those nice thick glass booths just shut down.
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The social institution of the Kingdom Hall.
by The Rebel init is a warm sunny day, blue skies and i am excited by the prospect this sunday holds.
will i dismantle a motorbike?
paint a picture?
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Chicken and a beer sounds good. Gardening here, it's sunny! Going to have a large glass of Italian red in my garden this evening, if the weather holds. -
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Does this ever happen to you?
by stillin innot very often, something will come up that makes me get a sense of having lost something.
maybe a television interview with a witness who does an exceptional job of explaining the kingdom preaching or something.
maybe accolades from the medical community for their stand on blood, how that has helped some other, supposedly superior alternative to be developed.. or maybe it's just a particularly poignant meeting.
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Perhaps it's the fantasy we miss stillin, the 'worldwide brotherhood', the instant friends, people who show love to one another in times of trouble. It's a lovely dream but in reality I know it just wasn't like that.
When I was a child people gave us clothes which was a really big help with four children but it would have been better if my mother could have put her foot down and defied my father and the headship nonsense from the religion and have gone and got a job. She did that once and he told her to give it up, being one of these very old fashioned men and being a good JW wife she had to obey, which caused huge financial hardship.
When I think of the congregation they did sometimes help one another but nobody outside the religion mattered. Last week, after the terrible sad pictures of drowned children in the press, a colleague at work suggested we send toiletries to the Red Cross for the refugees at Calais. Everyone is very keen to help strangers suffering because of desperately trying to get their kids out of a war zone.
We've also sent money to disaster appeals by making cakes and selling them. It was fun, we enjoyed a lot of cake for two weeks and people in desperate need were helped.
So I have managed to find a group of people who are nice to be around while I'm working, we support one another when we go through tough times and someone always pops up with a suggestion to help when there are people in desperate need in the world.
I've found a good group but there is no paradise coming, we are far from perfect but we don't have to live our lives crippled by impossible rules - just remember to bring cakes when it's your birthday !😀😀
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bloody religion !!! how could any sane people do this - 2 girls to be raped as a punishment for their brother's "crime."
by fulltimestudent inbeen sitting on this for a few days, confining my anger, to an area where i can control it.. two indian sisters to be raped as 'punishment' after brother eloped.
two sisters in india - one aged only 15 years - are to be raped as "punishment" for their brother running away with a married woman from a higher caste in the latest case to shock the country.meenakshi kumari, who is 23, and her younger sister, will then be paraded naked with their faces blackened through the streets, according to a ruling from the all-male village council.. the family are from the dalit caste, historically known as "untouchables".
however, the brother fell in love with a woman from the higher, jat, caste.
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bloody religion !!! how could any sane people do this - 2 girls to be raped as a punishment for their brother's "crime."
by fulltimestudent inbeen sitting on this for a few days, confining my anger, to an area where i can control it.. two indian sisters to be raped as 'punishment' after brother eloped.
two sisters in india - one aged only 15 years - are to be raped as "punishment" for their brother running away with a married woman from a higher caste in the latest case to shock the country.meenakshi kumari, who is 23, and her younger sister, will then be paraded naked with their faces blackened through the streets, according to a ruling from the all-male village council.. the family are from the dalit caste, historically known as "untouchables".
however, the brother fell in love with a woman from the higher, jat, caste.
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Please, please sign the petition on the Amnesty site. They have been stopping hideous punishments including death sentences for fifty years. Just takes two minutes. Please take the time, it really works. Amnesty's slogan is 'the world is watching'. Let's show India the world is watching them now.
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What does your baptism mean to you now?
by GiftsinMen ini was baptised on 1st sept 1990, 25years ago today.
it is still a date with deep meaning for me.
i never dedicated my life to serving any man or any organisation, this was my choice - as a grown adult - to serve my god through jesus christ.
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GiftsinMen23 minutes agoSorry Xanthippe but I don't really care if I'm understood or not, it's actually not important. My baptism mattered to me, that's it!
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What does your baptism mean to you now?
by GiftsinMen ini was baptised on 1st sept 1990, 25years ago today.
it is still a date with deep meaning for me.
i never dedicated my life to serving any man or any organisation, this was my choice - as a grown adult - to serve my god through jesus christ.
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I can't work out if you are just back-pedalling or if you are really totally unaware of the opinion you were conveying by your words.
Ok let's rationally look at Christian baptism. At the time it was explained to me that immersion, going fully under water then coming up again, symbolised dying to my past way of life and starting a new way of life. Now what was so wrong with the life of that fifteen-year-old girl who loved flowers and animals and mountains? Why did that life have to die? Plus why does any powerful being want me to dedicate my life to him, doesn't he have his own life, why does he want to play with mine?
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What does your baptism mean to you now?
by GiftsinMen ini was baptised on 1st sept 1990, 25years ago today.
it is still a date with deep meaning for me.
i never dedicated my life to serving any man or any organisation, this was my choice - as a grown adult - to serve my god through jesus christ.
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I know some have been left with no belief in a God at all or only think of Him as a tortuous monster and I believe this alone identifies the Borg as the evil anti-christ. I had to lock away my heart and soul for safe-keeping whilst I allowed the burning rage to surface and run its course.... My God knows me well and no idiot elders or bonkers organisation can ever change that.
I am not offended GiM. Why would you think that? But if you look at what you have just written and particularly what I have quoted above you give the strong impression you think we have stopped believing in God because of the Borg.
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What does your baptism mean to you now?
by GiftsinMen ini was baptised on 1st sept 1990, 25years ago today.
it is still a date with deep meaning for me.
i never dedicated my life to serving any man or any organisation, this was my choice - as a grown adult - to serve my god through jesus christ.
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I agree with Nic, I am not like a person who's been put off marriage by an abusive partner. I have come to the conclusion that I no longer need religion not because of an abusive cult but because of years of study, research and a great deal of thought. You ask about my baptism which to me was a weird ritual from a two thousand year old religion.
However I look at religion anthropologically, it's where we have come from and hopefully we will grow out of the need for setting rules for other people. Mainly because to me life is about personal growth and what growth can there be if a religion tells you how to behave with every decision you make in life.
I know you will say it's not about religion it's about a personal relationship with your God. I am truly glad if that works for you but it no longer works for me.
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I almost gave up today except for a girl her tried to throw herself infront of two cars.............
by umbertoecho inthis may sound insane but i literally have blood on my hands as i have just come home from a counselling session that went wrong...i wanted to collate all that has happened and record it...hospital policy is against it.
i said "what am i alive for then if not to tell the truth" she tut tutted and i walked out sadly in despair.. when i got to the ground floor there was a young girl screaming her head off.
she was afraid, that is all she was...........afraid.
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I think you're a very loving person and you did a wonderful thing. Just be careful now approaching the mental health authority because it is governed by strict laws and you don't want to find yourself in trouble. Look after yourself now, you've done a great deal to help and I think you need to step back and take care of You. ❤️