Posts by Xanthippe

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Still feel weird about things....

by FeelingFree in

so i'm loving the fact that my little one gets to be a "normal" child and take part in everything at school.

however i still have that stupid niggling in the back of my head that she shouldn't be doing it and it's wrong etc.

at the moment she is rehearsing for the nativity play and keeps singing the songs at home (she is going to be an angel!

Xanthippe

It's been 17 months so I guess I still have some healing to do. - FeelingFree

I don't think you're lagging behind. We didn't do Christmas the first year we were out because we didn't want to feel we were swapping one lot of customs/beliefs for another lot.

But on the second Xmas when we had been out almost two years we did buy a tree and give each other cheap chocolate and second hand books because we didn't want to join in the ridiculous commercialisation.

Do it your way, whatever feels right. From then on we didn't get feelings of guilt about it so please don't worry that it takes decades, you're nearly there.

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Still feel weird about things....

by FeelingFree in

so i'm loving the fact that my little one gets to be a "normal" child and take part in everything at school.

however i still have that stupid niggling in the back of my head that she shouldn't be doing it and it's wrong etc.

at the moment she is rehearsing for the nativity play and keeps singing the songs at home (she is going to be an angel!

Xanthippe

Aw I still have lovely memories of my little girl looking beautiful as an angel with tinsel around her long blond hair in the nativity play at school. Don't worry about your daughter, she'll have a great time. It's just fun to them at that age, play-acting. My daughter is an atheist now, even though she was Mary in one nativity play at school. We have to let them join in to feel a normal part of human society but if you don't take them to church or continue talking about religion it all just fades away as part of their childhood. Just as its part of humanity's childhood.

The negative feelings you have from joining in with the holidays will fade. It's just the cult programming being triggered. Remember the brain is programmed by learning that some things are good and other things are dangerous. Depending on who tells us about the nature of the danger of course! It's an evolutionary survival mechanism. If you don't keep reinforcing the programming it does fade gradually and your authentic self will take over as you make positive decisions to do things you truly want to do. Have fun!

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JWs, UFO's, demons, and the book "The Dark Gods"

by MikeHammer in

i have been looking into this issue that (many/most/all/etc) ufos are caused by demons as seems to be said by jws.

some time ago when i browsed this site i read a posting where someone recommended a book titled "the dark gods" by roberts and gilbertson (here is a link to the book at amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/dark-gods-anthony-roberts/dp/009138771x).. besides that one there are a couple of other books that i have checked (one of these is "operation trojan horse" by john keel and the other one is "a guide to the paranormal" by magnus raven).

both of these say the same thing although they approach this issue from different directions.. looking at the amazon reviews for "the dark gods" it looks like it also says the same thing but the book is out of print.

Xanthippe

MikeHammer, I found this on goodreads.com. Don't know if the email still works but if it does you could ask him yourself.

I am the co-writer of "The Dark Gods." I became a web designer after I became an author.

I'm not sure now I believe everything I wrote. I am glad we got five stars.

I now live in London.

And I can be emailed by anybody who has read our book at:

[email protected]

I look forward to hearing from you.

Thank you,

Geoff.

http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2615554-the-dark-gods#other_reviews

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JWs, UFO's, demons, and the book "The Dark Gods"

by MikeHammer in

i have been looking into this issue that (many/most/all/etc) ufos are caused by demons as seems to be said by jws.

some time ago when i browsed this site i read a posting where someone recommended a book titled "the dark gods" by roberts and gilbertson (here is a link to the book at amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/dark-gods-anthony-roberts/dp/009138771x).. besides that one there are a couple of other books that i have checked (one of these is "operation trojan horse" by john keel and the other one is "a guide to the paranormal" by magnus raven).

both of these say the same thing although they approach this issue from different directions.. looking at the amazon reviews for "the dark gods" it looks like it also says the same thing but the book is out of print.

Xanthippe

Care to summarise their conclusions?

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The new brchoure

by Sabin in

the gestapo body, brought out a brochure, i believe it was called return to jehovah.

in it they gave 3 reasons why some-one left the borganization.

if i remember 1 was because the person is angry at some one in the cong, or something along those lines.

Xanthippe

Muddy Waters I like your post, that brochure made me very angry too. Especially as I told the JW about the child abuse in Australia and suggested she watch the ARC proceedings on line. Her reply was sending me that brochure. I said where is the category in that list of reasons for leaving for people who have done their research and realised it's just not the true religion. Do I feel guilty!! Wow I was incandescent at that. I shall have to tone this letter down a bit before I send it!

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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

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my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

Xanthippe

Rich grief is exhausting physically. If you want to rest then rest. Wishing you peaceful sleep 🌹

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Why My Wife and I Have No Kids

by JT in

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*** g74 11/8 ***9 is this the time to have children?there has always been a positive attitude about childbearing.

*** g74 11/8 10 is this the time to have children?

what does imminent mean?

Xanthippe

Yes I have a sister and brother who can't have children. I know for one it's a medical problem and I think it probably is for both of them. Not only did this horrible cult strongly discourage having children when we were all young but it also forbade IVF because they said you can't discard any unused embryos, that would be murder. I believe they've changed this now to a conscience matter. Too late for my poor sister and sister-in-law!

So they were stopped from doing anything about their childlessness and told to wait for the new system. My heart breaks for them. How evil to do this to people. All our human needs they mercilessly ripped away. Are they all psychopaths in Brooklyn, incapable of empathy?

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For the Supporters of Those Who Love Jehovah

by lovesjehovah in

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i am jehovah's witness, despite some of the questionable teachings, crimes, and other outlandish behaviors of specific people affiliated with the religion.

i know that my relationship with jehovah is not influenced by any outside factors.

i do not condone any crime.

Xanthippe

l used to love Jehovah but don't you think he's gone very quiet in recent years? He doesn't seem to talk to anyone, no calling out a person's name like he did with Samuel or appearing in a burning bush.

I'm not being sarcastic LovesJehovah I just don't know how to love someone I can't see, who doesn't speak and doesn't do anything. I always struggled with talking to someone who didn't answer me, even when I did love Jehovah.

Now I can't believe in someone who does nothing when people are suffering terribly. I have to do something when I see people suffering, even if I can only give a tiny bit of help. He is supposed to have much more power than us but he does nothing. Doesn't that ever bother you?

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"Most women would prefer to be stay at home housewives. Women's lib did alot of damage to women!"

by purrpurr in

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the above is a quote from a jw female relative.

this was in response to a discussion about the suffragette movement ( and the movie about it that's currently in cinemas).

she seemed to think that it would be so much better if women were just daughters/ wives/ mothers and didn't go out to work and have career's?

Xanthippe

As usual I want to yell, read history books please. Women have always worked whether they had six or sixteen children. With their babies strapped to their backs they have worked in the fields. They have taken in washing, cleaned other people's houses, looked after or taught other people's children, cooked for other families and then gone home and done the same for their own family.

Now they are doctors, lawyers, politicians, chief executives of industry. The fact they can earn enough for child care - and they don't have to have a dozen babies is a huge, huge step forward. They don't wreck their health trying to be more than a cleaner or washer of other people's knickers or toilets and doing all the child care. Thank god, or rather thank the suffragettes and the male politicians who supported them.

The Women's Liberation movement didn't come up with the idea of women working outside the home. Women have been working outside the home, growing crops or earning money for thousands of years to feed their children

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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

jw
friends

my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

Xanthippe

Rich that's terrible. You sound like you are in shock. Is there anyone you can talk to? Someone who will just let you get it all out, how you are feeling? What a terribly sad time for you and your family. 🌹