Posts by Xanthippe

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Confused: What does the overlapping generation really mean?

by MicaSmith in

can someone help me understand how the wt came up with the overlapping generation theory?

i just don't understand it even though i read the information several times.

it's bewildering.

Xanthippe

Can someone help me understand how the WT came up with the overlapping generation theory? I just don't understand it even though I read the information several times. It's bewildering.

Mica I understand that this teaching came out in 1994, eighty years after 1914 so I presume they had to do something because the Bible says our years are 70 or if we have special mightiness eighty, NWT. So obviously they had to come up with something quick when it got to 1994.

That's how they came up with it.

Does anyone know how persons in the organization accepted this new light when it was released?

Yeah my brother happened to phone me in '94 because he had heard I was pregnant. I asked him about the generation teaching as it was eighty years since 1914 and he said 'we're not serving Jehovah to a date'.

So that's how they accepted it, well the ones who even noticed it.

I had been out five years so didn't know about it. If he had tried to explain that to me I can tell you I would have laughed my head off as I did when I first heard about it here on this forum.

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I finally understood the final hurdle...

by The Rebel in

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well the "pious" elders tuned out to be " super pious" and very good at reciting from the " very super pious" elders manuel, but actually " super pious" elders are quite harmless when ignored.. as for my former friends in the congregation, well throughout the ages there have always been people prepared to stand up for truth and friendship, sadly my " former" friends from the congregation proved not to be people of such noble character, instead only capable of giving short contrived speeches about why they missed me at meetings, snooze, and no great loss, as i have found the community outside the w.t organisation positively buzzing with unconditional friendship.. anyway i feel i have overcome all hurdles in my exit from the " w.t" except one,which is how i deal with my disrespectful father.

even when i was a witness in good standing, he had a pretty disrespectful and rude word power, now it's completely inappropriate.

i have tried pointing this out, even had long periods without contact, but i don't like doing that as it denies my mum seeing her grandson.. however what i have concluded is that this isn't w.t at fault.

Xanthippe

disrespectful father. Even when I was a witness in good standing, he had a pretty disrespectful and rude word power, now it's completely inappropriate. I have tried pointing this out,

Yes even when I was pioneering and doing all the stuff my mother wanted me to, I was never good enough for her. Some people are just bad parents, that's it. Now my life is much simpler. It's cause and effect. If people treat me badly, I stay away.

Of the few family members left, I arrange to meet pleasant relatives on their own away from obnoxious ones. Life's too short to be verbally abused by people who should love you.

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How My Husband Helped Me See TTATT

by corruptgirl in

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i wanted to write my experience on how my husband helped me see the ttatt (the truth about the truth).

first, let me mention that he wrote his own experience a couple months ago under the name sanchy.

for his story please click here….. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5148261828526080/walking-thin-line-resigning-elder

Xanthippe

Corruptgirl what a fantastic story. Welcome to freedom! Hope everything goes well with the pregnancy. It's so good you're children won't be brought up in that horrible cult.

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The restaurant at the end of the universe

by Xanthippe in

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i sat outside at a cafe with my cappuccino for the first time today.

the sky was blue, the birds were singing, i could hear a woodpecker in the tall trees.

i closed my eyes and felt the sun on my face for the first time in months and i thought, i could sit here until the end of time.

Xanthippe

SafeAtHome the weather in Ohio sounds wild! I need to plant more daffodils, your garden must look lovely. Yes I agree it's good to reflect and enjoy as the trees and plants come to life again.

Zaphod is hilarious jwleaks. What was that machine called that could connect you to the whole universe and blew your mind? Zaphod survived it because of his huge ego.

LisaRose that sign is amazing, you should be pleased with it. My roses are just budding and won't be flowering for a while but I did mulch them yesterday and I'm looking forward to beautiful flowers on the ones I bought last year.

The radio show in the seventies Simon? I remember that with was it Peter Jones as the narrator? Oh yes Marvin the paranoid android. " I'm just going to lie face down on the floor. You don't have to talk to me if you don't want to"

I liked Slartibartfast who did the squiggly bits around Norway.

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The restaurant at the end of the universe

by Xanthippe in

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i sat outside at a cafe with my cappuccino for the first time today.

the sky was blue, the birds were singing, i could hear a woodpecker in the tall trees.

i closed my eyes and felt the sun on my face for the first time in months and i thought, i could sit here until the end of time.

Xanthippe

I sat outside at a cafe with my cappuccino for the first time today. The sky was blue, the birds were singing, I could hear a woodpecker in the tall trees. I closed my eyes and felt the sun on my face for the first time in months and I thought, I could sit here until the end of time. How was your Good Friday?

(For those fans of Douglas Adams who were attracted by the thread title do you remember the character at the restaurant who was spending a year dead for tax purposes? I had a manager like that once.. Who was your favourite character?)

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JW Chef Refuses to Cook Black Pudding

by cofty in

sainsbury's has been forced to apologise after its jehovah's witness chef refused to serve a customer black pudding with his full english breakfast.alan mackay was stunned when he was told he could not enjoy the staple, made up of animal fat, blood and oatmeal, with his meal at the branch in arnold, nottingham.after receiving his incomplete dish the former police officer was told the black pudding would not be served because it was against the religious beliefs of the chef to do so....

Xanthippe

Mmm animal fat, blood and oatmeal, who could resist that.

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Facing mortality after leaving the witnesses

by truthseeker in

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tell me i'm not overly thinking this.. i'm 39 years old...still youngish...but i worry about getting old.

i look in the mirror and it depresses me.

i suppose i still cling to watchtower utopia when no one would age over 25.. i used to look forward to paradise earth because it meant all the evil in the world, nuclear warfare, terrorist attacks and sickos would be no more, but we are deep in the 21st century with no end in sight.. appreciate your comments.

Xanthippe

I hear you. I hate the thought of getting really old. My friend says if she gets to eighty she's going to Switzerland and she doesn't mean to ski. I try to think what it used to be like to get old and I try to be grateful for dental care, hair dye, makeup, moisturiser, health care and spectacles.

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My New Thoughts on Adam and Eve (don't laugh)

by xjwsrock in

warning for those that are still believers... this train of thought will not be faith strengthening.... i have come a long way since first stumbling on crumbs of ttatt in 2012.

(i have not come nearly as far with the wife unfortunately, but such is life.

) my critical thinking ability, thankfully, is in another stratosphere since figuring out i was a jw lab rat.

Xanthippe

Jehovah communicated with Adam with human language.

Instead of what? Dog language? This is their new truth? Worth waiting for! This is what happens when people are not allowed to read anything or talk about anything. They have nothing to discuss. So much knowledge available and this is their pathetic offering.

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Did You Get Invited to the Memorial?

by Ding in

i'm just wondering if jws keep inviting you back or if they've given up on you.. they haven't invited me for years..

Xanthippe

Nope they were in my street a few weeks ago but they didn't call here. I'm obviously a very scary apostate.

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Is this a site controlled by atheists?

by The Rebel in

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under the exterior of being an ex- witness site, is this site simply converting atheism?.

i pose the question, because many come here in distress and insecurity with the realization that the w.t is wrong but still retain a belief in god.

my personal opinion is the threads on god are not challenged by an atheists personal animosity to believers, they are challenged and become confrontational because the atheist wants an elaboration and factual proof to a believers faith.. is this unreasonable?

Xanthippe

I think because of people using social media for support when leaving this cult, or any cult, they were raised in there is a danger of moving too fast in changing beliefs.

In '89 when I left it was a matter of finding books in the library or book shops and slowly examining different Bible translations including a non-JW Greek and Hebrew interlinear. Then we bought Bible encyclopaedias and learnt about other religions. Then we started looking at evolution, anthropology and history.

When new people join this site most posters are welcoming and gentle with traumatised JWs who are just waking up. A few react with a knee jerk reaction to any talk about God or the Bible. I don't think it is just because they are atheists I think it's because they're idiots. What do they expect people to say who've had their heads filled with religion for twenty, thirty years or more?

Is this site controlled by atheists? Well Simon is an atheist but there are many religious people here who he's allowed to stay. Perhaps if we all remember it takes time to get free of the cult mindset and not launch at new people who mention God or the Bible. Also it's hard to give up a belief of having someone there to lean on and you're right sometimes these are just young kids who can barely articulate their feelings.

I do wonder what happens when these kids who see TTATT but still believe in God are warmly welcomed by all including atheists then go on another thread and see believers severely criticised for their faith. Does it cancel out their warm welcome? Do they stick around?