Xanthippe

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  "how awful it must be to be dying as an apostate!"

  by purrpurr in

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  i heard today about a former jw/now apostate who is dying in hospital.

  this information was accompanied by the comment of "wouldn't be awful to be lying there in hospital,dying as an apostate!

  knowing that you have no hope!?

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  dying as an apostate! Knowing that you have no hope!?

  I thought God decided who got resurrected? So they think we're all lost forever in their God's eyes. So much love in that religion!
  
  
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  My son is not sure about what he has been taught about the common ancestor

  by KateWild in

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  2. beliefs

  this week my son expressed he is agnostic as he is not sure what to believe about evolution and the common ancestor.. i thought any jw hang ups were gone.

  i told him that what they teach in school is trustworthy and he can be rest assured that there is evidence to support that the common ancestor was the real link to the evolution of humans.. he has got critical thinking skills.

  and responded with "for hundreds of years schools have been teaching things and have changed their thoughts".

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  I can't believe you can't understand the biology in Cofty's evolution threads Kate. He explains them very well. You understand chemistry, you're an intelligent woman, don't sell yourself short. I can understand them and I don't have a science background. By the way you have a very bright son, he must have got that from somewhere.
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  Introduction - Any Believers?

  by Believer in

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  i’ve been reading it for a few of years off and on, but have been a little too ... maybe ... timid to join.

  i left the watchtower organization almost 20 years ago but never abandoned my faith and belief in god.

  i knew the gb/organization didn’t represent god, so when i lost my faith in them, i managed to keep my faith in an all wise benevolent creator.

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  Hi and welcome Believer. I don't believe in the God of the monotheistic religions. To me the world and our solar system screams there's no one in charge looking after us. I just know the universe is huge and I don't know what the hell is going on out there so I keep an open mind.
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  Love is Greater than Hate

  by Coded Logic in

  1. social
  2. current

  this week has been a really difficult past couple of days.

  waking up to the news on sunday that some jihadist jackass had slaughtered so many of my lgbt brothers and sisters left me reeling and in tears.

  we're a community with common cause and a common struggle and it's immensely painful to see the loss of so many young and beautiful lives.

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  CL I'm so sorry this tragedy has made you feel unsafe. It's a miserable state of affairs when people can't feel safe meeting friends in a bar. I agree we should speak up against bigotry and intolerance. Take care.
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  Introduction from another JWR Refugee

  by 2badsosad in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yet another jwr refugee.

  been active over there for a while now.

  was quiet for the last couple months but just starting to 'reactive' myself again.

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  Xanthippe

  Welcome to the forum. I wish you well with your recovery program 🌹
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  Need some help: Existential crisis in full swing

  by Freeandclear in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so is anyone else having an existential crisis after becoming fully awake?

  let me explain.

  about 2 years ago i read coc, still believed and tried to get back in da troof.

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  Once a solder returns from combat to mediocrity its torture they can’t adjust to normal…

  That's so true MarkofCain. I went to a seminar on cults and a girl who joined the Children of God said when she left everything seemed so mundane and pointless at first, she couldn't adjust. They did a number on us. You have to deprogramme and reprogram your mind to normal life.
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  Need some help: Existential crisis in full swing

  by Freeandclear in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so is anyone else having an existential crisis after becoming fully awake?

  let me explain.

  about 2 years ago i read coc, still believed and tried to get back in da troof.

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  Xanthippe

  I understand the existential crisis, I've been where you are but I also wonder if your mind has been a little screwed up by the cult if you are finding no pleasure in life other than drinking and sex and see no purpose in anything. It could be your brain's become conditioned to everything being deep, meaningful and having purpose. Like you said you were always fighting to be good enough for the paradise.

  How did we fight to be good enough? Generally it was by denying ourself pleasure and happiness in life and forcing ourselves to do boring stuff every week. So now you need to retrain your brain to enjoy what humans love. Wake up and smell the coffee, literally. Smell coffee and relish the taste, cook food you love, try new foods. Do things every day that make you happy and stop looking for big meaningful stuff while you get your brain's pathways to enjoy pleasure, every day pleasures. Sunsets, starry skies, newly mown grass, the ocean, the dawn chorus, the smell of roses, music, art, poetry, travelling to new places.

  You may then find you are more content with getting up each day and enjoying life as a human being on a planet, living one day at a time and letting eternity take care of itself.
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  Think for Yourself: Reform Judaism Uses JW Blood Issue For Shavuot

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as the jewish holy day of shavuot (pentecost) begins this weekend, the reform judaism site publishes an interesting article entitled "judaism teaches: question authority, think for yourself.".

  the article employs a jewish doctor's recollection of a jw patient who refused blood and died as an example of how both religious traditions greatly differ on how they see and apply god's law.. shavuot is the day jews recall god's giving the law to israel.

  the article is significant in that it demonstrates how jews see the giving of the law as a call to questioning authority, including divine revelation itself whereas the death of the jw patient is contrasted as a slavish interpretation that misses the point behind jewish scripture.. for more see the article at:.

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  The reference to Gentile culture is spoken of, again, in reference to the Pauline epistles that we mentioned in a previous post by myself and several other posters who made reference to Pauline theology. Its use was meant to be limited to that and to the way logic was employed by both.

  I was talking about the way you used the phrase Jew and Gentile in your post specifically to me.

  Drawing conclusions outside of any topic and any poster's speech meant to be read in context thereof is highly unexpected. No offense was meant since nothing was meant outside this context.

  No offence taken.
  
  
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  Differences Between Ex-JWs

  by David_Jay in

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  2. beliefs

  we are not all the same--a real "duh, david!

  so i figured if i didn't feel that sense of solidarity that seems missing among the debating, then i was part of the problem.

  i'm responsible for making this place feel like a support and place of solidarity, just as much as anyone else.. but approaches i tried didn't work until i shut up for a while.

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  Xanthippe .......
  But apparently, at least as far as your reading of my post demonstrates, my abilities to write in an efficacious manner are lacking and not a little.

  Dont worry about it. I had to cast myself back into that mindset momentarily to remember how I felt but I am not that person now. It seems very odd writing I wanted to serve God and that I bought into the bs about saving lives, but I was sixteen.........

  
  
  
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  Differences Between Ex-JWs

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we are not all the same--a real "duh, david!

  so i figured if i didn't feel that sense of solidarity that seems missing among the debating, then i was part of the problem.

  i'm responsible for making this place feel like a support and place of solidarity, just as much as anyone else.. but approaches i tried didn't work until i shut up for a while.

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  Your being baptized as a JW was not a choice, not like it is for converts. You were not necessarily searching for what the JWs claimed they had. This was probably expected of you.

  Mmm you've got us all figured out now have you? Guess again David. It was a choice for me. I wanted to serve God and save lives. So I pioneered for ten years. Many on this forum felt the same way. I was searching for truth. At sixteen I questioned the Ransom Sacrifice doctrine and asked everyone what they thought. They thought I was mad. The hatred for the idea of a loving God torturing people to prove something to the Devil eventually led me out of the cult.