Posts by Xanthippe

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Need Suggestions/examples: Guide to helping family & friends break free

by LisaRose in

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i was going through my copy of steve hassan's combating cult mind control and it occurred to me that it would be great to have something like this specifically for us ex jehovah's witnesses.

while this is a great book, the examples he uses are mostly from people that were moonies, as steve is a former moonie and many people that have contacted him for help were relatives of moonies.

while cults all work basically the same, it would be nice to be have some ideas on things that are specific to jehovah's witnesses.

Xanthippe

I'm just not sure about this authentic personaity idea Lisa. I know the theory but after I've been out 27 years I see no sign of authentic personalities in my siblings. It's true I only see them at funerals but I'm not sure the authentic personality is suppressed by the cult personality. I think each small decision, shun this person, hate that gay person, lie about who will die at Armageddon, changes our personality gradually until we actually become a different person.

Otherwise how do people do evil things? Violent crime? Wartime atrocities? We have to fight to stop ourselves becoming callous, getting compassion fatigue, becoming cynical, being paranoid and xenophobic. So if you don't fight negative stuff don't you actually change your personality over time? Doesn't that happen to JWs?

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Musicians Who Died in the Last Year - or Through the Years- Who Do you Miss Most ?

by flipper in

i think for me in the last year the death of david bowie got to me the most.

not only in the way he handled his demise so classy by even making a song about it and a you tube about dying and sharing it with fans, but just his whole persona i always thought was pretty cool.

plus i enjoyed a good many of his songs.

Xanthippe

James Horner. So many wonderful film scores. I love film music, I think it's among the best classical music.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i1BwcCuEOtM

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EXISTENTIAL topic: Why is Paradise or Heaven the solution to anything?

by TerryWalstrom in

gather around the campfire, boys and girls.. i have a little journey for us all to take together.. long, long ago in this universe not so far away .

.we were told a story.______________once in timeless nothingness, there existed a timeless being we now call god.whatever "perfection" is or was--god was.

god was perfect.. but wait--that's not all!and here is where the story begins!.

Xanthippe

Eh 'cause dying is frightening? Surviving sounds better?

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JWs destroy archaelogical artifacts

by John Doe in

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thousands of years old.

this makes my blood boil.. http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/jehovahs-witnesses-destroy-ancient-indigenous-temple-in-mexico-20160628-0009.html.

Xanthippe

nytimes.com/aponline/2016/06/28/world/americas/ap-lt-mexico-shrine-damaged.html?_r=0

One here from the NYTimes. Spokesman for JWs in Mexico denies it.

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Very dark and confusing info...

by sp74bb in

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some internal sources in jw.org has brought me attention to the following data:.

- in which european country, not member of the eu, and well known for their banking industry, jw.org and some affiliated structures do maintain some business incorporated structures and companies?.

- which is the purpose of these business and company structures?.

Xanthippe

So the WTS have Swiss bank accounts? Is that the big reveal or is there something else?

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One Thing I Don't Get About Brexit

by JW_Rogue in

how did such a weighty decision get put directly in the hands on the average citizen?

and with only a simple majority required?

in the usa the biggest thing that people vote on directly is city building projects or infrastructure.

Xanthippe

The Times said this morning EU leaders are refusing to make any deal with the UK about continuing trade with EU countries until we have completed leaving the EU. How long will that take!

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Nobody at work knows what JWs believe

by Athanasius in

recently susie, one of my co-workers mentioned that her husband's family were all jws.

the family converted after susie's husband left home, so he never joined the jws, nor does he intend to.

anyway another co-worker asked her: "what do the jws believe?".

Xanthippe

Cool, I got two dislikes. Probably from JW apologists. Do you think the JWs believe everyone will be saved and not just you? It's always a good idea to know what your own religion teaches.

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One Thing I Don't Get About Brexit

by JW_Rogue in

how did such a weighty decision get put directly in the hands on the average citizen?

and with only a simple majority required?

in the usa the biggest thing that people vote on directly is city building projects or infrastructure.

Xanthippe

Well Freddo nobody knows what the ones who couldn't be bothered to get down to a polling station thought about it. They threw away their right to be heard.

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How do you deal with depression?

by BlackWolf in

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i'm currently going through a bout of depression and my eating disorder has gotten worse.

ever since my parents actually told me that they are going to kick me out when i turn 18 i've felt kind of hopeless about my life.

my parents won't take me to the doctor because the psychiatrists won't have my "best interests" aka jw crap in mind, because really that's the root of all my problems.. i'm wondering if any of you guys have any advice with dealing with depression?

Xanthippe

Blackwolf that's so sad what your parents have said about throwing you out. To cope with depression, eat sensibly, not too much sugar, get plenty of sleep, fresh air and exercise. I wanted to leave home at 17 because I was so unhappy at home. I finally got away at 19 even though I was still in the religion. Start planning your life now for ability to earn money and pay your own bills. You will make new friends and it's going to be okay.

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One Thing I Don't Get About Brexit

by JW_Rogue in

how did such a weighty decision get put directly in the hands on the average citizen?

and with only a simple majority required?

in the usa the biggest thing that people vote on directly is city building projects or infrastructure.

Xanthippe

I would like to remind everyone that 48% of us did not want to leave the EU.