atheist delusion.
just want to know what the ex jw community thinks about this video and also offer my pov.
the video was actually an advertisement on here.
They don’t want God to be true because they don’t want to submit themselves to any authority that would restrict their most cherished freedoms.
Same tired old argument. We don't want anyone to tell us what to do. Really?
Those who hold emotional objections to belief have usually been burned by believers and even Christians.
So we're either bad or sad? Pathetic. What about having searched the evidence for years and come to the conclusion God doesn't exist?
1. concerns about the effects it would have on yours and your family's social life.. 2. fear of being shunned.
3. the stress it will cause.
4. the thought of feeling isolated.
Truth explorer I agree in principle with making a fade work for you but a lot of your concerns are about what other people think of you. Who cares what others think of you, live your life.
10. Missing routine ......Note: I hated my life before being a witness, I smoked canibas, felt down alot of the time ( mild depression) and hung out with the wrong people. I am older and maturer now and jw standards are now ingrained ie I hate foul language etc, general bad behaviour etc. The routine helps me remain somewhat good I suppose.
If you were depressed before the JW life and the routine makes you feel happy and 'good' this is the crux of the matter. You need to tackle your depression and why you need a group to tell you how to be a good person. Perhaps you need your own routine that makes you happy, a good diet, exercise, hobbies, friends outside the cult.
will i say " orlando, your hair is too long, and needs to be cut short" and never will i say " orlando, invites to birthday parties can't be accepted".
and i will buy my son books he wants to read, books that bring him happiness, and that he understands.
and by so doing, i hope he will acquire happy memories of his childhood, so that the sensitive and delicate, in him will be allowed to grow.
The JWs taught my mother that children should be respectful and not answer back which seems to equate to not having a personality or opinion when you're a child. I felt as though all the self esteem was squeezed out of me through the JW upbringing so I was determined that my daughter should have high self esteem and boy does she!
She's confident and has her own opinion on everything. She disagrees with me a lot! That's okay with me even though sometimes it's irritating because this world is tough and kids need to be strong. I never wanted it to be about my ego battling against hers and beating her into submission which I think is how JWs raise kids.
I wanted her to be herself, to grow into who she is and not be twisted up with rules. She's become a moral, ethical person without hundreds of rules. Not a goody two shoes, but someone who believes in treating people well, looking after the vulnerable and those in need but not putting up with abusive personalities.
She's stronger than me and cleverer than me because her brain and nervous system haven't been screwed up by a crazy cult. I think that's one way the world improves if we raise the next generation to be better people than we were.
i guess this is not so much about guilt, per se, but more so if you feel an obligation to reveal what you now know about ttatt, to those who you have studied with, taught the "truth" to, and are still in the borg ?.
i am sure most of us, after learning about the evils, and lies perpetrated by this organization, must feel some sort of guilt for being the catalyst in "exposing" others to the cult.
honestly, i feel none of us should actually, feel guilty though.
Yes I feel bad about the two people my husband and I brought into that cult. At least we went and talked to both of them before we left but we couldn't get anywhere.
most people will consider the noblood doctrine as being something that affects only the jws involved and they rarely consider the medical professionals who have to deal with them and the tremendous emotional and mental toll the medical professionals are forced to deal with when confronting senseless death.. the following is an excerpt from a medical doctor's blog: .
i do not worry much about being dead although the process of getting there gives me pause.
i have witnessed a few unpleasant deaths and i hope to never see the grim reaper coming my way.. one of the more awful and pointless deaths occurred early in my career.
It's good to be able to see the doctor's perspective for a change, thank you.
found this very interesting article on another site.
looks like there people, and at an assembly too, who are not afraid to show their displeasure to the inhumane policies of the org.. http://avoidjw.org/2016/08/shunning-the-shunning/.
I find it amazing that the whole convention refused to clap for those videos. That's very unusual surely.
i'm probably going to say some things here that will disappoint many.
there are some that may look back over the years and say "man i really blew it" i'm not writing the following to scold for failures, but rather to help those who are young enough to put into practice what god wills for their life, and also to those of us who are in our middle years that still have time to change some things, in order to please god and find a peace that only being in his will can bring.
first let me say that god didn't create man for you.
TD, I can remember something about 'this is at last bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh', because all the other animals in Eden had mates and Adam didn't. The JWs believe he was lonely or something and needed a helpmeet, whatever that means. I think that's from the AV actually.
kinda surprised this hasn't popped up on here yet.
article is just a couple days old.
it's in the small, but pretty state of vermont.
If only elders gave this response whenever someone came to them complaining he saw some brother engaged in sin.
'I saw porn in brother Xs browsing history'
'Unmarried X and Y spent the night in a hotel together'
'I saw sr X smoking'
'While at work in the hospital, I noticed in the records X had a blood transfusion'
Sorry folks, it's beyond the legal and feasible scope of our congregation to monitor private activities...
This is so true Barbara. The WTS secret police, the elders, hound people's private lives constantly but when child abuse occurs they are suddenly unable to do anything because it involves the congregation member's 'private activities'.
time to take a break from debating religion.
take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?
how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?
time to take a break from debating religion.
take in a breath of fresh air and be healed by the wonders of nature around you.. how many of you have a garden?
how many have a nice flower patch to go with your vegetable garden?
