Posts by Xanthippe

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Does Christianity Promote Self Hatred?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i think that christianity's teachings pose a very unproductive world view and are a danger to our survival.

their teachings that man is sinful and worthy of death and in need of a savior to rescue him and free him of his sinful tendencies or else feel the wrath of god.

these things that condemn man as sinful are his own powerful drives given to him at conception which he now must deny due to indoctrination and consign to his shadow(jungian).

Xanthippe

Their teachings that man is sinful and worthy of death and in need of a savior to rescue him and free him of his sinful tendencies or else feel the wrath of God.

Yes of course it promotes self hatred and also hatred of other people. Now we know we are simply another animal on this planet that has drives to survive, to gather stuff around us so we don't starve or freeze to death and also to reproduce, it becomes clear we don't have sins just animal instincts.

When our instincts are in conflict with the needs of others it can make us seem selfish but we're all just trying to survive. Babies are born little animals with instincts and needs, they're not born full of sin! What a vile teaching!

We're not broken, we don't need saving. We need loving parents who help us to fill our needs and teach us how to live around other people so that our needs don't conflict with theirs and cause pain. That's what we need, not religion telling us we're broken and need fixing, anymore than a kitten or puppy is broken, they're just new.

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She's here and early! 27 weeks 1day.

by Darkknight757 in

so as of july 2nd my wife delivered by c-section our little one pound, three ounce daughter izabella.

it was a very scary night that started with a decel and turned into multiple decels that greatly concerned the doctors.

by early morning they felt the need to take her for her safety.

Xanthippe

Congratulations! What a wonderful story to hear today. Wishing health to your beautiful baby daughter and strength to you and your wife in this stressful time. 🎈🍼🎀💖

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Share, Please: Pictures of Your Garden

by compound complex in

jw
friends

paradise regained, at home:.

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Xanthippe

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Share, Please: Pictures of Your Garden

by compound complex in

jw
friends

paradise regained, at home:.

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Xanthippe

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Dealing with Loneliness and Social Anxiety

by NoviceLocs14 in

hello, this is my 1st initiated post on this site, so i'm a bit nervous.

i did search for similar topics on this site, but a lot of them have been inactive for several years, so here goes.... a little background, i was pretty much born in "da twoof", baptized at 17, pioneered for about 6 years, was part of the rbc part time, and was even in the foreign language field for the last 3 years i was a jw.

so i pretty much had a pretty active social life within the organization due to being part of all of those things.

Xanthippe

Hi Novice, I totally understand your feelings. I left with my husband but lost all my family and friends like you. I have recently joined a Meetup group online. Just google it if you don't know what it is. We go to see plays and have meals out. There's also a book group within this Meetup.

I've found it brilliant because Meetup is basically designed for people who want to expand their social life. You can check out what the group's about and the age range. Join several if you like, you don't have to go to anything you don't fancy and no one will be like 'where were you' if you don't go as they are in the JWs. Try it.

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How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

by JW_Rogue in

look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

Xanthippe

@confusedandangry it's not too late. I pioneered like you and left at thirty. I was a few weeks off 37 when I had my daughter. Many women are having children at forty now. Go for it!

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How do you get over all the things that you missed? The stuff you can't get back

by JW_Rogue in

look my life is not bad but sometimes i just think about all the normal things i missed out on.

and no i'm not talking about christmas and birthday parties.

i'm talking about your first kiss happening in your twenties instead of your teens.

Xanthippe

Yeah I get it, when I took my daughter to look at universities I felt a pang wash over me. I could have done this and there were no tuition fees then! Frustrating is putting it mildly.

The way I cope is by thinking as broadly about life as possible. Try and think globally and historically. So many kids don't get to go to school let alone college because they are dirt poor in a poor country. For millennia poor people were trodden underfoot by the privileged rich. We are by pure accident born in rich countries and we live in a great century.

As you say your life is not so bad and neither is mine. I would have like a better job and be able to travel more but life is what it is. Probably the hardest thing to live with is that we have done it to ourselves, but we were indoctrinated, many of us from babies. I just try and be grateful for what I have now and move on. It doesn't mean it hasn't hurt badly in the past.

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Alerts etc

by Xanthippe in

i wonder if it's possible for those of us who've been out decades to have alerts or alternatively see a grouping of threads in a folder or something similar if something actually happens of interest in the borg.. i'm not really interested in the day to day stuff about this cult but i would like to know if anything drastically changes as my siblings and their kids are still trapped.

i don't know anything about creating the code for forums so i don't know what is possible but if you don't ask you don't get.

this is not a criticism it's just time for me to move on and just drop in occasionally..

Xanthippe

Yeah that's why I came here in the first place Smiddy to help my family and a friend of my husband's who got in contact. I will pop in from time to time.

I actually love to hear about people's lives on here. Where they've travelled to, their families, people getting an education late on and starting a new life. Love that. Just don't want to know what the latest watchtower says. Had enough of that when I was in. Take care.

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Alerts etc

by Xanthippe in

i wonder if it's possible for those of us who've been out decades to have alerts or alternatively see a grouping of threads in a folder or something similar if something actually happens of interest in the borg.. i'm not really interested in the day to day stuff about this cult but i would like to know if anything drastically changes as my siblings and their kids are still trapped.

i don't know anything about creating the code for forums so i don't know what is possible but if you don't ask you don't get.

this is not a criticism it's just time for me to move on and just drop in occasionally..

Xanthippe

Yes I thought that would be the problem Simon, deciding what is important. I suppose I only want to hear if the religion collapses and the HQ in America is shut down. Anything else is just well to be honest a bit boring when you've been out as long as I have. I don't mean people's experiences of leaving, they've been fascinating and sometimes heart-rending.

It was interesting to hear about the ban in Russia but I think as many people on here have also said, my family will just see that as persecution and get even more entrenched.

I still hold out hope that the child abuse court cases will suddenly snowball and the payouts will bankrupt this cult.

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Alerts etc

by Xanthippe in

i wonder if it's possible for those of us who've been out decades to have alerts or alternatively see a grouping of threads in a folder or something similar if something actually happens of interest in the borg.. i'm not really interested in the day to day stuff about this cult but i would like to know if anything drastically changes as my siblings and their kids are still trapped.

i don't know anything about creating the code for forums so i don't know what is possible but if you don't ask you don't get.

this is not a criticism it's just time for me to move on and just drop in occasionally..

Xanthippe

I wonder if it's possible for those of us who've been out decades to have alerts or alternatively see a grouping of threads in a folder or something similar if something actually happens of interest in the Borg.

I'm not really interested in the day to day stuff about this cult but I would like to know if anything drastically changes as my siblings and their kids are still trapped. I don't know anything about creating the code for forums so I don't know what is possible but if you don't ask you don't get. This is not a criticism it's just time for me to move on and just drop in occasionally.