I'm glad you're able to be frank about your life experience and who you are now 😀 Contentment and peace sound beautiful. I find that joy is a bonus that pays an occasional visit when we least expect it.
Xanthippe
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No Longer Afraid
by compound complex ingreetings, dear friends and fellow survivors:.
i am grateful to be alive and associated with like-minded people, both here on this wonderful forum and in day-to-day interaction with friends, neighbors, clients, but, sadly, few if any jehovah's witnesses.
i have, somehow, become detached from the sadness and sorrow of the past, about which i have written on this and other ex-jw forums for some dozen-plus years.
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Are JWs "mind trained" to be habitual liars?
by nonjwspouse ini don't mean overly obvious, or otherwise meaning to cause harm, but taught to lie for the purpose of avoidance.
this type of lying can be pervasive in areas of life that are not just to avoid discussions with people who have questions about the jw, etc.
my husband will lie/be deceitful about the silliest, simple things.
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Xanthippe
It's all about avoidance isn't it. I have a relative who habitually lies to avoid confrontation because she likes everything to be 'nice' and everyone to get on. You can see how this personality type is either drawn to this religion or stays in it as a born in.
The whole culture is avoid reality, avoid looking at the world as something that can be changed but as a waste of time that God needs to destroy. Just wait for panda paradise. Therefore a JW has the supreme avoidant personality. They're bound to lie to avoid trouble. Thanks for this thread, very interesting.
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Has anyone else recently been contacted by a once close JW friend or relative? Could this be a new JW tactic?
by Latte inhmmmm...yesterday my long life friend called my landline after many years of silence.
now the shock has subsided, i am wondering if i can forgive and forget the fact she chose not to keep in touch throughout a time in my life which was very stressful.
sadly, i gathered that she is still involved with jehovah’s witness faith.
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Xanthippe
Hi Latte, the reason I came on this forum was because a friend of my late husband suddenly got in touch five years ago after shunning us for 24 years. No reason given, and she kept talking about the religion even though I said I didn't believe it any more. Like you I thought what's going on and thought maybe I'd find something on this forum to explain it.
For a while I kept replying to her letters talking about normal stuff, my daughter, our holidays, but the JW stuff was continually being slipped into her letters. Finally got really annoyed when she said surely I wanted to return, didn't I want to see my husband again. I got cross, I hate emotional blackmail. Playing on someone's grief is the worse kind. I told her about the ARC. Her reply was to send me that Return to Jehovah rag. I sent her a Christmas card. Result - peace at last.
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Why the vitriolic hate?
by stuckinarut2 ini am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.
why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.
surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.
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Xanthippe
If they allowed our families and friends to treat us normally how long would it take for them to realise we haven't gone to the Devil and what we say makes a lot of sense.
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ARC recommendations. Read for yourselves
by zeb inhttps://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2017-08/report-on-criminal-justice-released.
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Xanthippe
The report recommends making failure to report child sexual abuse in institutions a criminal offence. This recommendation extends to information given in religious confessions. Clergy should not be able to refuse to report because the information was received during confession.
Wow at last, elders won't be able to use the 'clergy confessional ' excuse in Australia if this becomes law. Brilliant!
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How Do You Feel About Trump's Tuff Talk To Korea To Make Korea Behave?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini know or think i know that trump is bluffing and acting very bully like with threats of unleashing his power as commander and chief a military with super weapons.
but why bluff with such boyish stupidity?
i think mr trumps barginings skills are at an all time low and so the threats of violence and retaliation for misbehaving according to the whims of a narcissist.. my confidence in him is at an all time low, talk about cave man club you over the head approach to problems this guy takes the cake.
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Xanthippe
Two of the biggest egos on the planet may have the power to start world war three. How do you think I feel?
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If you had two years to live what changes in lifestyle would you do?
by Chook inre-evaluating time and tying lose ends can be complex.
don't worry this chook won't go down without a fight.
just think if i had a short period of time i would let my hair down .
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Xanthippe
See India, Africa, New Zealand, Canadian Rockies, China ( I'm not a communist btw Morpheus), Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia.
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Sexist Watchtower quote makes me so angry
by Phoebe injohn cedars latest youtube video refers to last weekend's wt study article which some have referred to on another thread but i am truly outraged at the continuing misogynist attitude toward women.
not only did that study article say if women have a family to care for it will stop them gossiping or meddling into other people's affairs, lloyd shares on his video a talk by sam herd from when he was a c.o in 1971.
(i hope he has since changed his opinion!
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Xanthippe
Apparently, not only do women have a smaller brain and can't make decisions because we're too emotional, if we do think we can do a job as good as an elder we are borderline homosexual.
JWs are the most sexist people I have ever met. All that trash about women being the first mate to the husband's steering the family ship because they're not biologically made to cope with running a family. How the heck do they think women run businesses and even countries?
That 'family' book used to make me spit. 'If he's cross when he gets home and dinner isn't ready calm him down and get him a drink of juice'. Get your own bloody drink, I've had a hell of a day at work, then I had to pick up our child from the childminders and now I'm making dinner. Get me a drink while you're at it. Make it a red wine.
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How smart were the ancients?
by Coded Logic ingrowing up as a jw, i always thought the ancients were scientific morons who knew next to nothing.
ashamedly, i used to run around citing isaiah 40:22 as proof of the bible's 'divine authorship' because it talked about "the circle of the earth".
as though this were somehow an unknowable before spaceflight.
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Xanthippe
Yeah google Atomists. The ancient Greeks were incredible.
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"Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."
by HereIgo ini was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.
does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?
or is that just my wishful thinking?
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Xanthippe
They mean even if the new system isn't coming the JW way of life, moral, loving your neighbour etc is the best way.
Since being out and meeting ordinary people I find that in every group you find the odd one who is very unpleasant, who will stab you in the back soon as look at you, but in JWs I felt I was in a whole hall full of people who hated me, hated themselves, hated their lives.
If you've never been among normal people try it, there's more love and kindness in the world than you'll ever find in a KH.