This all depends on the beasts in Revelation standing for whoever the Bible reader or their church chooses to say they stand for. In the first century I've read they thought the wild beast was the power of Rome. During the Reformation it was the pope and Catholicism.
Xanthippe
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Where in the bible does it say that the governments will turn on the religions. Like the Dubs always say this will happen
by goingthruthemotions ini have not been here in a while, just trying to move on with my life all the while dealing with a very pimi brainwashed wife.. so the other day she started saying that we will have to go our own ways when things get worse with this world.
she has said this before because she believes that the government will turn on religion and the great and powerful wizards (guardians of doctrine g.o.d.
) will call everyone and tell them where to go.. thank god, (no pun intended) i have been out of the loop for such a long time.
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BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse
by Lostandfound intoday on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.
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Brilliant thank you for the link. Great to see it's on the main UK home page. I'm amazed the Charities Commission's enquiry has been going on since 2013, I wonder when they're going to come to a decision?
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Concerned about my mother.
by Searching ini'm sure the date january 2018 + 'message of judgement' has been kicking around the exjw's various forums for a while now, and the more i think about it, the more i get worried.
not for myself really, but for my mother especially.
i guess you could consider her to be pomi (physically out, mentally in) she's faded in the sense that she doesn't go to meetings, doesn't really live by many of the rules any longer, is in a relationship with a worldly man, etc etc etc, however, she still considers herself to be a witness, and will defend the org if need be.
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Yes we've heard something about January 2018 on here. Also that the preaching work is winding down, only six public mags a year, new U.K. bethel having no printing facilities. I just think it's another way of hiding the fact they've had to pay out to court cases and are worried about more. Conserving funds, downsizing and those old men on the GB building themselves a fancy retirement home.
Are you worried your mother will try and get you involved again next year or that something bad is going to happen like Jonestown?
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Free Minds Web Site
by garyneal inanyone know what has happened to freemind.org website?
it's still up but it looks like a shell of the site i remember back five or six year years ago.
if i am not mistaken, i think randy may have taken ill over the years.
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Randy was a light in a very dark place back in '89 when we left the cult. His newsletter in the post was a lifeline to my husband and me. I can't even remember how we found out about it. Pre-Internet it kept us going, knowing we weren't alone. Thanks Randy. đź’–
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Poisonous chicken
by zeb inlast night my wife prepared dinner.
chicken and veg.
as she was cooking the chicken it gave off the most vile smell.
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Hope you're okay Zeb x
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I'm coming back to the forum after 10 months, and new challenges...
by Mandrake ini haven't been here for about 10 months and just looked over some topics to update myself, well i came back for a very particular reason... my family was, father, mother, sister and i... the split up (4 years ago), only my father remained jw, my sister left but lives with him, and i've been living by myselft over the last months sharing an apartment with my girlfriend (worldly) an his brother (worldly) (we are a "modern family" hahahaha).... so the relation with my father have been in many different phases the last 4 years, having in mind that he cheated my mom with her best friend (woman) within the congregation an married her just few months ago... so today it's my birthday and i called dad and told him that i had a great time anyway and that to be "even more pagan" i set up my christmas tree today.... he had never questioned me for dating and living with my current girfriend nor tried to "bring me back to the congregation", but he replied to me: "hey, talking about being a pagan, i'm not confortable with things now because i want us to como closer together again and do more things like having lunch or whathever and your are now df, can you talk to the elders and take back the letter you sent them da-ing so we can share more?".
i don't know what to do, i really mean what i wrote in my d.a.
letter, i needed to vent what i think of the borg now, i'm no way taking it back, those are like my luther's theses ... i can't believe my father divorced my mother on no biblical ground, continued dating her best jw friend, and 3 years later they got married and are a happy respectable "christian" couple... and now he suddendly is not confortable with me because i sent a letter to the elders telling them i no longer believed the same shit they do... my sister simply stopped attending meetings and dated worldly boys, celebrate xmas, birthdays and stuff, but with me is different just because i have a clearer idea of who i really am and i'm trying to live by that.. i thinks this whole thing is unfair, he is totally blackmailing me, it's been years to get to this friendly level with my father, and now he is adding this awful pressure.
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I hope that my grand parents, uncles and cousins (all of 'em non-JW) help me to make him see clearly that he is FAR from being a model JW, and he's bashing me for not being one, and being HONEST....
You have many relatives as a support system, stick with them. Your dad cheated on your mother and he's a totally dishonest person regarding what he professes to believe. He wants you to join him in his dishonesty by taking back your DA letter. I don't think you can tolerate a person like this in your life.
I know it's hard, he's your father but it's not as if you are on your own. You also have your mother and sister I think? If he doesn't love you for who you are, well the decision is yours ......
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Poisonous chicken
by zeb inlast night my wife prepared dinner.
chicken and veg.
as she was cooking the chicken it gave off the most vile smell.
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- individual animal not being stunned, killed what ever before it was hit with scalding water.
- which results in an horrific death and the animal voiding its bodily waste in projectile and this contaminates the other chicken around it and then to get past that stink the chicken meat is then washed/ soaked.. in strong chlorinebleach.
This is one reason I eat very little meat, no red meat at all and only free-range poultry. There is such a lot of ill-treatment of animals when they're farmed and even when they're slaughtered even though we have modern humane methods available. Do you mean chickens are dropped alive into scalding water? I thought they were stunned then beheaded. Damn this world sometimes.
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question of the day does a religious org have the right to hold confidential info on one of its members
by poopie inwithout there permission ?.
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Pistoff I've often wanted to see that in print. I didn't dedicate myself to any organization but to God by being dunked pre-1985. So now I know the god of the Bible doesn't exist my dedication is null and void. Thanks, settles an argument I had with my brother.
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Reveal Article, Nov. 16, 2017: Jehovah’s Witnesses’ tab for child sex abuse secrecy: $2M and counting
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-tab-for-child-sex-abuse-secrecy-2m-and-counting/.
jehovah's witnesses' tab for child sex abuse secrecy $2m and counting.
by trey bundy / november 16, 2017. .
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Not certain they have paid anything yet as they were appealing, but WT's appeal now appears to have failed. The penalty since the order was issued is now accumulated to approx $2M.
I see, thanks Incognito.
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Reveal Article, Nov. 16, 2017: Jehovah’s Witnesses’ tab for child sex abuse secrecy: $2M and counting
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-tab-for-child-sex-abuse-secrecy-2m-and-counting/.
jehovah's witnesses' tab for child sex abuse secrecy $2m and counting.
by trey bundy / november 16, 2017. .
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Surely this is the case I asked about from an earlier thread and asked so have they been paying $4000 a day for two years? Several posters said no they've been appealing it this whole time and paid nothing, but apparently they've already paid $2,000,000.