Always struggled with this teaching as a teenager. It's very monetary isn't it, Adam lost perfection, Jesus died to get it back. Very legalistic. I always though it was weird we had to be grateful to God for torturing his son to death when he made the wacky bargain anyway. He was living by his own weird rules.
Xanthippe
JoinedPosts by Xanthippe
-
23
Christ's sacrifice
by dogisgod inso, i am having lunch with a group of women with varying backgrounds.
i asked the circle how many believed in the story of adam and eve and the snake.
no one believed it literally.
-
-
-
30
What is CT Russell's motive?
by sinboi inwhat is russell's motive when he started examining the bible with a group of bible students?
did he intend to form a cult and to mislead others?
.
-
-
Xanthippe
What was CT Russell's motive?
Perhaps he was just a poor little rich boy trying to find himself. His family was wealthy enough for him to be able to afford the luxury of existential angst. Unfortunately he was a man of his time, with no internet he turned to the Bible and religion.
Too early for a library card, Carnegie was still making his fortune. If only Russell had read Origin of Species instead of Bible commentaries, how different his life and ours would be.
-
-
-
Xanthippe
Tomorrow I'm flying business class and staying in a five star hotel being treated like a king by the local congregation........but first I have to talk to these idiots.
-
12
Motives Matter
by AllTimeJeff inthere is a difference between the leadership of the borg (gb 2.5, is that what they're on now?
) and the sheeples, that for a variety of reasons, stick with this nonsense.. not every jw publisher believes this stuff.
the gb knows this.
-
-
Xanthippe
The motives of the ordinary folk who looked to people like Russell in the nineteenth century may have been genuine, desperate for answers for the reasons I gave but are the r+f JWs genuine now? Or are they just too lazy and too cowardly to leave? In the information rich world we live in how can anyone be so ignorant?
-
12
Motives Matter
by AllTimeJeff inthere is a difference between the leadership of the borg (gb 2.5, is that what they're on now?
) and the sheeples, that for a variety of reasons, stick with this nonsense.. not every jw publisher believes this stuff.
the gb knows this.
-
-
Xanthippe
Life was hard in the 1870s even in Western countries. A lot of poverty, misery and sickness around. Heck people could die from complications from a cold, no antibiotics. So people were searching for answers and a lot of cults sprang up.
Do we need them now? No! We have answers, we have science, medicine, wonderful food from all over the world, technology that was beyond belief in the nineteenth century. They are anachronistic nonsense, these religions, be done with them.
-
19
How do you deal with the loneliness after leaving?
by Whynot ini'm having one of those days where i feel lonely and wish i had someone to just hang out with.
my husband got disfellowshipped 3 years ago and even though i didn't do anything wrong i was pushed away.
my so called "friends" decided to avoid me.
-
-
Xanthippe
There is a co-worker that wants to hangout and I would really like to. How do I push this endoctrination out of my head that it's not fine to be friends with someone who is not a JW? I feel like a big mess bleh.
That sounds great, just don't get too heavy about it, keep it light, no need to tell your life story, just hang out. If you don't enjoy hanging out with this person just don't accept further invitations. Don't worry about it. People in the real world don't shun you if you just don't want to hang out.
-
25
My JW niece is getting married ... typical JW drama
by wannabefree inwe received an invitation in the mail yesterday for my jw niece's wedding.. i am posting this just to add for any lurkers to see typical jw practices.. 1st - and perfectly understandable for anybody who is or was a jw.
i'm not invited.
:) hey, i'm really not complaining about that.
-
-
Xanthippe
You raised an amazing daughter, intelligent enough not to get baptised and yet still loving and open-minded, remembering the affection she had for her cousin as a child. You helped her to be strong emotionally so she is not broken by this, good for you.
-
35
What is the strangest book or craziest book the JWs have ever printed?
by blownaway inwhat do you think the crazies or strangest book they ever printed is?.
-
-
Xanthippe
The 'family' book in the eighties. Stupid attitude to marriage and family life. If your husband comes home from work and he complains that dinner is late get him a drink of juice and ask about his day! Get your own bloody drink, mine's a red wine and help me with the dinner.
-
32
Movie-goers can be fickle (great movies that should've enjoyed huge box-office success)
by LoveUniHateExams injust thought i'd start a thread about this topic.. john carpenter's the thing (1982) was a great film, one of his best imo.
for me, it's right up there with alien (1979) as one of the greatest sci-fi horror films ever made.
and yet one film made anything between $100 - 200 million at the box office whereas the other made only $19 million.
-
-
Xanthippe
Geena Davis as a secret agent with amnesia in The Long Kiss Goodnight. (1996) I don't know anyone who's actually seen it although it didn't do too badly at the box office. Love this film, especially when schoolteacher Davis starts remembering who she really and how to throw knives. That line when she says to her daughter "life is pain, get used to it".
-
133
What Is The Most Ridiculous Thing You Have Heard From A Witness?
by minimus ini remember an elder questioning a woman who had admitted to giving and receiving oral sex from her unbelieving mate.
he asked her the most intimate questions which clearly flustered her.
interestingly, she “confessed “ to the elders because her conscience bothered her.
-
-
Xanthippe
Some years after leaving I had achieved a Bachelor of Science degree, consciously left religion behind and become an atheist, volunteered for a charity fighting world poverty and my JW mother said 'you are being left behind. We are making spiritual progress and you haven't progressed spiritually at all'
Really nothing I could reply to something as stupid as that.