I'm amazed at quantum physics too Bobcat, especially that we can affect things at the quantum level by observing them. So there is a link between living and non-living things at that level. There's still so much we don't know. I agree no need for woo woo. Isn't she in the Mikado?
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Evidence of a form of telepathy, science and personal experiences.
by Bad_Wolf ini believe in rational explanations for everything, whether they are understood yet or not.
medication used to be considered 'magic' until understood how it worked.
on the subject of telepathy, for me it's very subtle but has happened many times.
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A scientist.
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Since when does a slave appoint itself over anything???
by Roger Kirkpatrick inat matthew 24:45, where jesus discussed the faithful and discreet slave, he gave only two identifying features of that slave.
(1) providing the master’s domestics food at the proper time; and, (2) after having done so, being appointed by the master himself over all the master’s belongings.. since current watchtower teaching is that the appointment over all the master’s belongings is yet future and that such appointment is to be made by the master himself, how does the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses account for the fact that it has preemptively identified itself as that faithful and discreet slave?.
surely there remains among believing jws some who can discern the problem with this teaching!
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Dagney that's brilliant thanks!
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How do you deal with the emotions of waking up? ---my ramble -----
by Fognomore ingood morning, .
i am just wondering how you have constructively worked through the emotions of waking up?
i am trying hard to be positive, and i know life is a gift.
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Hi Fognomore. I've found that the more people I meet the more I realise there are all sorts of things that happen to people that make their lives hard.
I have a colleague that has type 1 diabetes whose illness and ensuing health problems have stopped her having children.
I've met people with mental health problems, people who are going blind, people who can hardly walk.
In India I saw people living in the most terrible poverty, tumble down houses, children begging on the street. So many different ways of life with everyone just trying to survive with what life has thrown at them.
I hope this helps. I hesitate to write this because it rarely goes down well on this forum to say look around you, there's a lot of people struggling to cope with the cards life has dealt them. It's not just us.
I'm not trying to minimise what you and I as exJWs have suffered I just think we need to mentally join the human race and say life is hard for all of us. It's damaging to think everyone else is having a great time but us. We are all humans struggling together but we're getting there.
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Shunning Eventually Hurts the Shunner More Than You
by snugglebunny inthis is worth reading.
basically it seems to be referring to the "mean girl" syndrome where girls who were once part of an in-crowd are suddenly ostracised by their peers, the feelings of despair that overwhelm them.
however, social aggressors usually finish up with deep seated problems of their own.
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That's interesting Vidiot I take your point. I think if they have any humanity left when they shun us they feel guilty and this guilt turns to anger at us, the people that made them feel guilty.
I think the animosity they continue to feel against us is less about beliefs and more about wanting to block out of their minds the ones that have caused them to deal with such difficult emotions.
Who is it that said it's not what we say that people remember but it's how we made them feel?
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Infiltrated Elders?
by john.prestor inso i'm watching john cedars commentary on the annual meeting from this last october, and at one point he shows a clip of garrett loesch talking about the struggles jehovah's witnesses faced decades before in the soviet union.
he claimed that police officers, maybe the kgb, infiltrated congregations which met in secret by studying with jehovah's witnesses, getting baptized, and then working their way up to becoming elders.
ceders jokes that this shows what kind of role holy spirit actually plays within body of elders, but another interpretation came to my mind just now.
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we all know the Governing Body communicates with the faithful through implication, they imply things they don't wanna say directly
They're not afraid of government agents, they're scared sh*+less of apostates. This is an obtuse warning, as you mention above, about apostates infiltrating the organisation.
They're asking the r+f to turn one another in if someone is sounding like an apostate, asking questions, having doubts. They want to stamp on apostate 'spies'. They know now that even many elders are pimo, they read this site and others.
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May 2019 Watchtower doubles down on the "Two Witness Rule" !
by stuckinarut2 inthis is simply disturbing and infuriating!.
the may 2019 wt has defiantly and arrogantly been released by the gb, and it is full of their disgusting excuses for not complying with authorities!.
(i have seen and read all the articles, but cant work out how to upload a link here - perhaps someone can assist?).
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13 Do elders comply with secular laws about reporting an allegation of child abuse to the secular authorities? Yes. In places where such laws exist, elders endeavor to comply with secular laws about reporting allegations of abuse. (Rom. 13:1) Such laws do not conflict with God’s law. (Acts 5:28, 29) So when they learn of an allegation, elders immediately seek direction on how they can comply with laws about reporting it.
Still the weasel words! In places where such laws exist it says. Mandatory reporting to the police isn't law in the UK so that's not going to happen here.
When they hear about the crime do they go to the police? No they seek direction from the JW Branch on how they can comply with laws about reporting it.
So no going straight to the police and still do the bare minimum so as to be seen as keeping it legal.
Nothing has changed, the elders will see the weasel words and understand that but the r+f will think what a loving article!
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Shunning Eventually Hurts the Shunner More Than You
by snugglebunny inthis is worth reading.
basically it seems to be referring to the "mean girl" syndrome where girls who were once part of an in-crowd are suddenly ostracised by their peers, the feelings of despair that overwhelm them.
however, social aggressors usually finish up with deep seated problems of their own.
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I would say that guilt is the most destructive emotion we have so if they do ever feel guilty about shunning us then it will eat then alive. That's how evil cults are.
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Baptised 52 years today!
by Phoebe injanuary 29th - my baptism date.
can you remember how you felt at your baptism?.
i got baptised because my dad kept frightening me.
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RubaDub you are naughty but you reminded me about my baptism venue. Does anyone else have those dreams where you are looking for a loo and there are only dirty public toilets available or there are no doors on the cubicles? It's your subconscious mind stopping you from peeing in your sleep, saying don't do this you're asleep!
Well when I got to the assembly where I was going to get baptised the ladies' loos didn't have any doors on! They were doing a refurb but hadn't quite finished. I should have known then! 😀
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Hungry?? Don’t worry- I’ll feed you soon....
by stuckinarut2 inhow often have we heard jws (and christians in general) speak about how “god will step in soon and fix earths woes”.
a thought came to mind that i would love to calmly say to the person that says we should “wait on god”.
if your child looks up at you with big eyes, and a pained look on his face and says “daddy, i’m so hungry.
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Yeah no one's coming to help us, the world is our problem and it's getting smaller all the time. Hungry people are at the mercy of radicalisation. People are running from war zones or poverty and ending up on our shores and who can blame them. It's no good waiting for God, Jesus or the tooth fairy.