new dubtown episode.
poor melch cant take part in anything in high school.
https://youtu.be/egcegptsn00.
Well done Dubtown, good one.
Poor kids no wonder they want to run away fast at eighteen!
If Satan makes you a star in his world he's going to want something back from you? Seriously this is the latest Borg video? This is literally a medieval idea. Selling your soul to the devil. See Dr Faustus.
I despair of anyone who stays in this religion after hearing something like that.
i remember when i did.
i was in hs when that happened.
i wasn't even awake yet.
Incognito, yes I remember the elder who went through the baptism questions with us seemed to really emphasise the one about disfellowshipping. For me, I didn't think there were any consequences becasue I couldn't see myself 'sinning'. It never occurred to me that disagreeing with a teaching might be considered a sin!
I remember I was the only one in a group of five teenagers who couldn't see that difellowshipping was an act of love. I said it seems like a punishment to me.
The elder went over that section again but I still couldn't see it. He gave up and moved on. I should have realised then, but I was only fifteen!
i remember when i did.
i was in hs when that happened.
i wasn't even awake yet.
Incognito how did you know what you were doing? You thought it was the truth and that the leaders spoke for God. How can being fooled into dedicating yourself to serve a publishing/real estate company be seen as acting from free will? I don't understand.
i remember when i did.
i was in hs when that happened.
i wasn't even awake yet.
it seemed like a pretty poor reason to get baptised. I’m sure there must have been more to it than that. I hope. Intriguing that whoever organised the programme thought this would appeal to young people
They like to get young people baptised as soon as possible so if they realise it's all a lie and start asking questions they can disfellowship them immediately.
l sat in church on sunday listening to this sermon by ray , one of our lay readers , thinking " l wish that the good folk on jwn could hear this , they might be quite surprised " then l thought " why not share it ?
mark 13:1-13.
" l wonder what you make of this reading from mark .
I did read it through. It's good for some people to know not all religions are like JWs in predicting the end times. My mother-in-law seems to get a lot of comfort from her church after leaving the JWs although it's not my cup of tea.
The scientists who warn us of the dangers of climate change . The environmentalists who tell of the pollution of our oceans by plastic . The horticulturists who report a decline in insects due to the use of pesticides . Perhaps it is these people who are the true prophets today rather than the ' religious folk ' They are more in keeping with the examples of prophets in the Old Testament .
I just don't know how he thinks scientists are like the Old Testament prophets, that meticulously working with data is like Bible prophets but it's good to see religious people not slagging off scientists like the JWs do.
Actions born from love are more beneficial than those born from despair I agree.
edit: oh hang on is he saying scientists are prophets of doom like in the Old Testament? Therefore the answer is not to listen to any of these prophets, religious or scientific but rather live from love not despair, is that what you get out of it Jan?
How about supporting environmental efforts to save our planet?
just recently i was looking at a topic on jwfacts entitled 'paradise on earth forever.
' from the research paul did on this topic he mentioned that there is no biblical evidence of an earthly resurrection.
i haven't heard this before but wanted to get some thoughts on this topic.
If we aren't designed to live forever on this Earth why didn't God just create us in heaven in the first place?
Welcome Jeff1. That's a good question. The next question should be, are we designed?
Since the 144,000 are the only ones who will have a "resurrection" (to heaven) what hope do any of us have that are not anointed?
As you say why continue serving God if we're just going to die? Yes I agree it is disappointing, that's a huge understatement! One that all of us here have had to deal with.
The thing is about reality Jeff is that it just is. Humans have found many ways to deal with it. Live your life to the full. Find ways to make it fulfilling. Art, music, travel, helping others.
Good to see you here.
jws don't say, "i am a jehovah's witness.".
instead, they say, "i am one of jehovah's witnesses.".
what does the second way of saying it convey that the first does not?.
Instead, they say, "I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses."
Yes of course just as you would say "I am one of Peter's friends"
You wouldn't say "I am a Peter's friend", that sounds ridiculous. For once I don't think they're being devious, they're just being grammatical.
more subpoenas have been added.
so the watchtower is getting close to 50. i think there are about 44 of them listed here.
brumley the witchhunter!.
'As regards Watch Tower’s Cease and Desist letters threatening damages long with attorney fees, it’s worth noting that their copyrights are not registered with the Copyright Office. We here at AvoidJW.org are confident that Watch Tower are not going to register their Shepherd the Flock of God book or their Branch Orgnization book. For them to do that, they’d have to give up their secrets. And if they do that, AvoidJW’s very reason for existing would end. Either way, we win.'
i have a recurring back injury that has spared me for some time but has returned and the results are nightmares of the 'stephen king' order.
my guess its nerve damage causing 'short circuits'.. am seeing the chiro tomorrow.. anyone else had this?.
Zeb I had nightmares and sleep paralysis sometimes doing night feeds when my baby was born. It seemed to be connected to waking up a lot during the night and then dropping off again. Perhaps you are awake off and on in the night with your back pain?
i stopped attending meetings about three months ago.
after researching everything i could find on jehovahs witnesses (which is a lot) i can happily say i am awake and free.
i was a baptized witness for over 25 year.
Welcome HBF I understand your desire to make a normal life for your children. I hope if you have a birthday party for your son your husband might join in or at least be okay with it. It will take time so just enjoy life with your children and let him do whatever he wants.
