Xanthippe

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  Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?

  by Diogenesister in

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  just before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..

  i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!

  ) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.

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  Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..

  i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!

  ) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.

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  Diog I think neat blue dog is right you really rattled her and she was looking for an excuse to run away.

  Whatever happened to talking about Darwin eh? What happened to asking how life evolved when we've only managed to create amino acids (Miller experiment). I know now we were confusing evolution with abiogenesis but we had a go didn't we? We didn't just walk away.
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  Boy crowned prom queen by schoolmates

  by pale.emperor in

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  now i think i may have seen everything.. "boy crowned prom queen by schoolmates".

  i'm all for people being entitled to wear what they want and live as they please as long as they're not harming anyone but - a male prom queen?

  maybe there wasn't much competition in his school?.

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  When I went to school that kid would have had his ass kicked every day all day long. - rockemsockem

  Look how far we've come. Especially if he is mentally ill.
  

  I just wonder, why the people who care, care? WTF difference does it make in your life? - iwantoutnow

  I wonder that too.
  
  
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  Tonights mid week meeting study 7 " Accurate and convincing"

  by benny in

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  2. bible

  the video at he mid week meeting tonight shows a video on how teaching must be based on hard researched fact and that we are encouraged to look at watchtower literature to get up to speed on a subject.. here is the link to it https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/reading-teaching-videos/accurate-and-convincing-video/.

  i find this quite disturbing when you look at the feb 2017 watchtower which explains the governing body errs in their understanding of subjects yet they claim to be god's channel of communication to his people.. what are the thoughts on this?.

  i know there are other topics on new light etc...

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  '12 The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. '

  But they have the audacity to claim in that article to be guided by holy spirit and helped by angels.

  What an arrogant claim for anyone! Can't they get it right with all that help ?!

  How can they talk about hard facts unless they get the holy spirit-guided words every time. Is the creator of the universe incapable of getting the facts accross to them?
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  Is there anything that can open a JWs whos dyed in the wools mind

  by rockemsockem in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we all know that jw who would still believe if tony morris killed a baby on the roof of wallkill and put it on the internet.

  for those people will there come a time when they will see or do you think someone so deep in a cult will never come to realize its all a lie.

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  For dyed in the wool read mentally lazy. There's too much information around to not know what this religion is really about.

  If you or I want to know about anything we Google it straight away. You can do it on the phone in your pocket. Nobody will know or be stumbled! No excuses left.

  Cowards that's what those are who don't leave after decades in this cult.
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  Losing a loyal friend of 14 years

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  this last tuesday was one of the most stressful and sad days of our life when we had our lab morgan put to sleep.

  she was so sick and out of it we just had to do it.

  when i called the spca on monday to make a appointment to have her put to sleep i felt like i betrayed her.

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  I'm so sorry, your beautiful dog brought you so much comfort. I understand, I had a little cat that we got after leavingthe cult, she used to sleep on my pillow as a kitten.

  She got me through, I owe her so much. She died at eleven from liver disease, no age for a cat.
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  Withholding My Information!

  by The Fall Guy in

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  over the past few days i have twice visited screwfix - a uk nationwide company which sells tools & fixings.. on my first visit, i informed the store assistant of the item i required.

  she immediately said, "post-code?".

  i informed her that it was a cash sale and there was no need to give information.

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  Yeah in clothes shops now I get asked would I like the receipt sent to my email address. I always smile and say nice try.
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  Political leaning since leaving the Org.

  by Olig in

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  2. current

  as you are completely barred from talking or being involved in politics while in the org, since leaving has anyone started any political campaigning or activism?

  also what way would you lean?

  left?

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  I coĺlected for Oxfam after leaving the JWs for a few years because they believe in teaching people to help themselves. Then they asked me to visit my MP particularly highlighting primary education for all children globally. Which I did for a couple of years.

  Then I got disillusioned at a meeting where they said the autumn door to door collection was a publicity exercise where they spent two million pounds to make one million. I was furious! I spent hours doing that every year so now I support UNICEF and save the children who are part of the DEC and on the ground in all natural disasters and war zones.

  Joined Amnesty International after leaving the cult and have petitioned, written letters and emails to free prisoners of conscience although not so much lately as work and maintenance of my house and garden take most of my energy.
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  Why was Amnon (son of David) not put to death for raping his half-sister Tamar

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  it is amazing what comes up when i am researching.. i was thinking about the 2 witness rule.

  amnon tricked his half-sister tamar to be alone with him and then raped her.

  tamar's full brother absalom found out, it is implied by the wts that there had not been 2 witnesses to the rape (hah!).

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  Why are they comparing a rape story from the Bible to premarital sex? The two scenarios are not similar at all. One is about violence and the other is about consenting adults who want to have sex.

  I don't like the way they keep describing the victim as beautiful Tamar and lovely Tamar. What are they implying, that it was partly her fault for being attractive?

  Why do they describe the rape as violating her virginity. Wouldn't it have been so bad if she hadn't been a virgin? Are they saying two consenting young people raised as JWs having sex are violating the girl's virginity? Stupid, there's nothing precious about virginity, what an ancient, out-dated belief.
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  OCT 2019 Watchtower - Survival dependant on loyalty to JW Leaders

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  there is so much wrong with the newly released october, 2019 but that's not unusual.

  what stands out is there statement claiming that survival through armageddon depends on loyalty to those 'taking the lead'.

  since they claim there will be a point during the gt that they (the gb) won't be physically around, jws must still be loyal to jw leaders.. whats interesting in this article is that they make it clear that they, the governing body are going to take part, from heaven, in the war of armageddon.

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  Sounds like the gb are planning their exit strategy - Nowwhat

  If these child abuse court cases snowball would the GB just disappear with all the cash they've gathered into offshore accounts by ripping off the r+f, grabbing their KHs? Their other sheep helpers take over making out the GB have raptured because the GT has started. Those who take over are not liable for any charges because they weren't there at the time.