Most religions use fear of final judgement to manipulate their members to obey.
What I find most objectionable is JWs use of Jesus' torturous and likely fictitious death to guilt members into a life of sacrifice and deprivation.
Xanthippe
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Hellfire justifies torture = Armageddon justifies shunning?
by slimboyfat ina few weeks ago the watchtower study condemned the teaching of hellfire, among other things, because some religions have used the hellfire doctrine as a justification for torture:.
the false teaching of hellfire has been used to justify torture, including the burning at the stake of those who opposed church teachings.
according to a book on the spanish inquisition, some of those responsible for this cruelty may have believed that they were only giving heretics “a taste of what perpetual hellfire would be like” so that they would repent before dying and be saved from hellfire.. it occurs to me that jws justify disfellowshipping on a similar basis.
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Chapter a Day (I will post) from my Sci-Fi novel
by Terry inchapter one.
the monorails of mars (1905) ____.
like watchful eyes—the twin moons of mars voyeured above the chaos.
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Xanthippe
Brilliantly written Terry. The whole time thing is intriguing. I'm hooked. So long since I've read any decent sci-fi.
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Chapter a Day (I will post) from my Sci-Fi novel
by Terry inchapter one.
the monorails of mars (1905) ____.
like watchful eyes—the twin moons of mars voyeured above the chaos.
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Xanthippe
Curiouser and curiouser!
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Update:The Unbelievable Just Happened!
by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara ini will try to keep it as short as possible.
so if it seems abrupt sorry, or if any questions do ask n i will fill you in.. update to the news of 5 people leaving(2 couples n a single sis).. they have been in touch with my pimi friends( the ones who shared their news with me).
in conversation my name came up.. one couple who have been very involved in spiritual activities .they are a nice couple from what little i know about them.they had moved around quite a bit in need greater too so they have come in contact with lots of boe's, co's, r n f; n experience with them which goes without saying.. long story short while moving about to different places, they heard about the csa lawsuits.
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Xanthippe
Thanks Zing, it's amazing to think that people they meet in the ministry can help them see the facts.
A couple of people tried to help me. One was a psychologist who said she had many JW patients. Another was a university lecturer in philosophy who tried to show my husband and myself that people have wondered about the big questions in life for millennia. I wish we'd listened but it shows there's good people out there.
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Chapter a Day (I will post) from my Sci-Fi novel
by Terry inchapter one.
the monorails of mars (1905) ____.
like watchful eyes—the twin moons of mars voyeured above the chaos.
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Xanthippe
Wow Terry! Looking forward to chapter 2.
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I Am Now Officially an O.B.E member
by smiddy3 inhi friends ,.
i just thought i should share with you my entry into the o.b.e.
club on this 5th of july.not everybody makes it and to tell you the truth ,i never thought i would.
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Xanthippe
Out of body experience?
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Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?
by Diogenesister injust before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..
i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!
) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.
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Onager
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Are Witnesses advised not to get into discussion’s about evolution with HH?
by Diogenesister injust before the last memorial, i finally had a witness call with an invite ( i say finally because i haven’t seen anyone in the d 2 d preaching work for going on 5 years!)..
i wasn’t particularly prepared ( it being early and me still in my nightie!
) but i managed to collect myself and said i didn’t think i wanted to go since i discovered the scandal around the un.....and i outlined the facts.. jw: oh no i don’t think so, where on earth did you read that?.
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Xanthippe
Diog I think neat blue dog is right you really rattled her and she was looking for an excuse to run away.
Whatever happened to talking about Darwin eh? What happened to asking how life evolved when we've only managed to create amino acids (Miller experiment). I know now we were confusing evolution with abiogenesis but we had a go didn't we? We didn't just walk away.
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Boy crowned prom queen by schoolmates
by pale.emperor innow i think i may have seen everything.. "boy crowned prom queen by schoolmates".
i'm all for people being entitled to wear what they want and live as they please as long as they're not harming anyone but - a male prom queen?
maybe there wasn't much competition in his school?.
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Xanthippe
When I went to school that kid would have had his ass kicked every day all day long. - rockemsockem
Look how far we've come. Especially if he is mentally ill.
I just wonder, why the people who care, care? WTF difference does it make in your life? - iwantoutnow
I wonder that too.
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Tonights mid week meeting study 7 " Accurate and convincing"
by benny inthe video at he mid week meeting tonight shows a video on how teaching must be based on hard researched fact and that we are encouraged to look at watchtower literature to get up to speed on a subject.. here is the link to it https://www.jw.org/en/publications/videos/reading-teaching-videos/accurate-and-convincing-video/.
i find this quite disturbing when you look at the feb 2017 watchtower which explains the governing body errs in their understanding of subjects yet they claim to be god's channel of communication to his people.. what are the thoughts on this?.
i know there are other topics on new light etc...
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Xanthippe
'12 The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction. '
But they have the audacity to claim in that article to be guided by holy spirit and helped by angels.
What an arrogant claim for anyone! Can't they get it right with all that help ?!
How can they talk about hard facts unless they get the holy spirit-guided words every time. Is the creator of the universe incapable of getting the facts accross to them?