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  dozens of copies of CoC

  by Xanthippe in

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  there are dozens of copies of crisis of conscience on this site abebooks.co.uk, second hand from 4. .

  they are shipped from the us but although there is a us version of this site i can't find it on the search function no matter what i put in.. anyway for my fellow brits cheap copies here: - .

  http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/searchresults?an=raymond+franz&sts=t&tn=crisis+of+conscience.

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  Love that picture Watchtowerfree. Yes just to reiterate what Doc says if you are lurking and you haven't read it yet please do. If you have been told Ray Franz was a GBmember who left and then wrote an apostate book that got him disfellowshipped that is not true .

  He was disfellowshipped ostensibly for eating a meal with a close friend who was disassociated. The real reason being he had been on the research committee for a book called Aid to Bible Understanding and he realised the 'seven times' prophecy taking us from 607BCE to 1914 was wrong. Obviosly he couldn't keep quiet about that, being an honest man, so they got rid of him. It was later he wrote this book. Do read It.
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  dozens of copies of CoC

  by Xanthippe in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  there are dozens of copies of crisis of conscience on this site abebooks.co.uk, second hand from 4. .

  they are shipped from the us but although there is a us version of this site i can't find it on the search function no matter what i put in.. anyway for my fellow brits cheap copies here: - .

  http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/searchresults?an=raymond+franz&sts=t&tn=crisis+of+conscience.

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  There are dozens of copies of Crisis of Conscience on this site abebooks.co.uk,  second hand from £4. 

  They are shipped from the US but although there is a US version of this site I can't find it on the search function no matter what I put in.

  Anyway for my fellow Brits cheap copies here: - 

  http://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/SearchResults?an=Raymond+franz&sts=t&tn=Crisis+of+conscience
  
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  What do YOU desperately need, but you've been putting it off?

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  i don't know why, but i put off getting a haircut way longer than i should.. i might go as long as 5 or 6 months between haircuts.. i desperately need a haircut.. what do you desperately need, but you've been putting it off?.

  (disclaimer: minimus is going to be jealous.

  this sort of question is his tradmark :).

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  A mojito sounds delicious. With white rum I also love a a piña colada. Rum, pineapple juice and coconut juice. I want mine with a sparkler 
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  What do YOU desperately need, but you've been putting it off?

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know why, but i put off getting a haircut way longer than i should.. i might go as long as 5 or 6 months between haircuts.. i desperately need a haircut.. what do you desperately need, but you've been putting it off?.

  (disclaimer: minimus is going to be jealous.

  this sort of question is his tradmark :).

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  I really need to do something different with my hair but I keep putting it off and having the same style. Thinking of maybe an orange Mohican, what do you think?
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  inheritance

  by truthseeker100 in

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  i have a good life and i am now worth around 3 million us.

  my two children have their university degrees and a promising future.

  what should i do with my money?

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  So Truthseeker100 what did you decide?
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  3rd Gen DF'd finally writing

  by AFreeBeliever in

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  i've been reading many of the postings on this forum for a couplefew years, finally joined today.

  i think reading cappytan, and others like that, compelled me to share, it seems i might have a bit of a different outcome than many i have read, perhaps it will be hopeful/helpful to someone.. i was a born-in, 3rd gen jw, my entire family (parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, and most all of my childhood friends) were in.

  some dropped by the wayside as the years went on, but many stayed in, and if they didn't, they still acted/talked as if they believed it was "the truth" and it was their weaknesses/failings that made them stop attending.

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  Welcome and thanks for sharing your story. I am not going to tell you what to believe just please keep reading, thinking and questioning. You don't have to decide anything yet while you're still 'limping'.  Once you settle on a belief system what room is there for new ideas? 
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  We are not the only ones who have lost our faith

  by Xanthippe in

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  it is not unusual to lose faith in the religion that you're born into.

  i actually think it's quite common to move away from you parents' belief system and find that you are a different kind of person to many members of your family.

  i have read in national newspapers of famous people including politicians who have left the faith of their birth and found family relationships very difficult, some of them have even been shunned by family.. quite often in local newspapers i see books for sale from one individual about eastern religions, philosophy, evolution and so on.

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  Yes it's true if you do go to a therapist or counsellor they do have experience of people leaving all sorts of religions and coping with the fallout from their families. I remember talking to my doctor, who is Indian, about it and he wasn't at all surprised that my family shun me. He may have been through the same thing himself. 
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  Is this a discussion forum or a debating forum , which is it ?

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you get confused sometimes whether this site is a discussion forum or a debating forum ?.

  just asking.

  whats your thoughts.. smiddy.

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  As an atheist I want to reply to the above from James Brown even though this thread is going rather off topic. I am always offering suggestions on avenues of research for people who feel empty at having lost their faith.

  Also I am always offering suggestions for bringing spiritual things back into your life, for example, art, music,creativity, travel etc.

  For those who just want to sit at their computers and whine that we don't have any answers for you, news flash, we don't. If you want someone to tell you what to believe and how to live then you are looking for a high control religion. James Brown do you really want to go there again?

  To quote the late Douglas Adams, 'Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly,hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is'.

  Nobody has all the answers, if someone tells you they do, RUN!
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  Is this a discussion forum or a debating forum , which is it ?

  by smiddy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  do you get confused sometimes whether this site is a discussion forum or a debating forum ?.

  just asking.

  whats your thoughts.. smiddy.

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  In a way they are like Jehovah's witnesses on steroids, they tear everything down.
  But offer nothing in its place standing over the ruins of faith.  -James Brown

  (Please see my next post in answer to this, can't seem to get out of quote on here on my iPad)
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  My Day's Long and Arduous Journey

  by compound complex in

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  this, my day's long and arduous journey, is winding down as infinite night gracefully descends and takes me into her welcomed embrace.. i have no reason to fear the inevitable, my transition into a higher and more glorious estate than was allowed me upon this beautiful but angst-filled habitation.. what must be borne with calm, with dignity, with rejoicing, has been prepared for me from earliest times.

  its accomplishment requires nothing of me .

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  It's so lovely to hear from you CoCo and to see that you're writing again. Stay well dear CoCo, we need your calm voice of reason here