JW child cured according to BBC this morning. If you remember the child's parents took him out of the Southampton, UK hospital against the doctors' advice to have proton beam therapy for his brain tumour in Prague. Interesting follow-up article.
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JW child taken out of hospital - now cured of cancer
by Xanthippe injw child cured according to bbc this morning.
if you remember the child's parents took him out of the southampton, uk hospital against the doctors' advice to have proton beam therapy for his brain tumour in prague.
interesting follow-up article..
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Road to Recovery
by vinman ini am totally new to this.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i made it my own at the age of 5. i was a "true believer ".
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Hi vinman and welcome. My husband and I were true believers too. He was an elder and he pioneered for 15 years and I pioneered for 10. I wanted to save lives because I thought people were going to die at Armageddon.
When did we stop researching the WTS? At first we were very busy getting our lives on track. We had to get jobs, my husband was cleaning windows. We eventually studied for degrees to get better jobs so we could buy a small house. Then we had a baby before it was too late for us.
Your life has been different, you need to get your head clear for the sake of your family. When to stop researching? When you are sure you will never return to thinking it's the truth.
Just take your time and realise that this is the beginning of a very long journey. If you want to stop and take a break then that's a good idea. Each time I read a new book I had to take a break from reading for a week to take it in. We were sheltered from reality and facing up to it can be hard.
As smiddy said many of us have continued researching the Bible and found it equally wanting. The WTS didn't stop us believing, our research did. Take your time, keep it to yourself for now and come on here to vent. Where you stop your research is entirely up to you. Personally I love reality, but it's not for the faint-hearted. Take care.
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Wife fully awake.
by cappytan ini learned this past week that my wife is now awake.
i just shared the pbs newshour segment with her with no comment other than something along the lines of, "jw story on pbs.".
she is furious at the arrogance of these men.. thats what happens when you get a momma angry!.
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Fantastic news Cappytan. So pleased for you.
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Mind control.
by New day inin a recent thread someone mentioned that the wtbts uses mind control techniques.
do you think this is a conscious ploy?
if it is it would mean that the leaders of my religion (i am still an active jw) set out consciously to control people.
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The end justifies the means every time with this organisation. They tell themselves they are controlling people for the sake of their everlasting life. Which incidentally was the reason the Inquisition gave when they tortured people to death. -
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Attitudes of WT Society Leaders Towards " Rights " of Child Abuse Victims and Elders
by flipper inthese excerpts i'm sharing with you are from the july 1st, 1989 letter from the wt society to the elders and it gives outsiders a good idea of the attitude of the wt society leaders towards child abuse victims and even towards their own appointed elders.
and it shows wt society is first, foremost, and mainly concerned about financial fallout from potential lawsuits.
one short quote was used from this letter on the abc news nightline report about candace conti - but what i'm going to share with you will be other excerpts from that same letter that are just as, or even more revealing.
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The spirit of the world has sensitized people regarding their legal " rights "
The spirit of the world, which we know they think is wicked, has made people aware of their legal rights! Yet human beings have been fighting for centuries, often at the risk of their own lives, for human rights, women's rights, children's rights and animal rights.
Now this cult is putting the word rights in inverted commas as if rights are a nonsense, as if they don't exist. It seems in their eyes people don't have any rights at all, they simply must obey their leaders and put up with being abused or watch their precious children being abused and keep their mouths shut about it. How dispicable to find this treatment of people's rights in the twenty-first century.
Thank you very much Flipper for bringing this to our attention. If you are reading this and you are still a JW remember that according to your religion you have no rights, none at all. They are just a product of 'the spirit of the world'.
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Why do I suddenly want to start reading JW literature and going to Kingdom Halls?
by yogosans14 inis good calling me back or am i just letting my emotions get the best of me?also i really want to be closer to my jw family.
btw i was never baptized and i consider myself a born again christian i go to a baptist church and wath televangelist and i have expirenced gods presence like never before but sometimes i get fearful and think "what if jws are right and i'm wrong" than i'm screwed!but if there wrong and i'm right it doesn't look to good for them.. i would prefer if nobody posted "god isn't real" type comments.
i truly believe he is real but i respect why some are atheists..
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Could just be a case of 'gluten for punishment syndrome'.
That's because you need to sort the wheat from the chaff.
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Recent Birth Experience
by lambsbottom ini'm completely flabergasted at what happened with a couple in my old congregation recently.
they are still active.
the guy messages me that they had their baby and will be at a local hospital for the next couple days.
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So sad that pregnant mothers and their husbands have to go through all the extra stress that this cult lays on them with the worry of refusing blood. I'm not sure why the doctors were so worried about the c-section and your friend needing blood or not surviving.
I had a c-section because I had preeclampsia and my blood tests showed my kidneys and liver were starting to shut down. Preeclampsia was the main cause of maternal death not so long ago before regular blood pressure checks and blood tests were implemented but there was no blood transfusion suggested, I just had saline.
Really sad your friends were put though this additional pain and stress because of a religious belief. I hope mother and baby are doing well.
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Why do I suddenly want to start reading JW literature and going to Kingdom Halls?
by yogosans14 inis good calling me back or am i just letting my emotions get the best of me?also i really want to be closer to my jw family.
btw i was never baptized and i consider myself a born again christian i go to a baptist church and wath televangelist and i have expirenced gods presence like never before but sometimes i get fearful and think "what if jws are right and i'm wrong" than i'm screwed!but if there wrong and i'm right it doesn't look to good for them.. i would prefer if nobody posted "god isn't real" type comments.
i truly believe he is real but i respect why some are atheists..
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Yogosans you're only 18 now I think? Do you think it would be a good idea to do some research on the history of religion? Also as your parents are not JWs why do you feel forced to go to the memorial with your JW relatives? -
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Why do people "come back"?
by kairos ini know of several examples of ones that "left the truth" for up to 20 years, only to suffer through the reinstatement process and feel like they are finally back on track.. how does this happen?.
i personally know of one example where a father of three, leaves jws, abandons wife and family, lives as a gay man then comes back 20 years later as a partaking member of the anointed..
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I just don't understand people still believing it after years away. When we stopped going to meetings or reading the rags the mind control loosened and the nonsense started to fade rapidly from my mind because we were avoiding the almost daily indoctrination.
Perhaps it's one benefit of sending in a DA letter. We were safe from any interference by elders, friends or family, no-one to 'encourage' us to go back. We had already been reading and that just carried on, science, history, philosophy. People need to read when they leave and also meet people outside of the religion.
We didn't have any choice, we had to get jobs to get out of the pioneer poverty trap. We certainly met a lot of new non-JW people. I did an IT course at a college to help me get a job and we had to give a three minute presentation to finish the course, a confidence builder for job hunting. I did a talk on JWs. I had them laughing their heads off, a good experience. People need to move on with their lives to prevent them going back.
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Why do people "come back"?
by kairos ini know of several examples of ones that "left the truth" for up to 20 years, only to suffer through the reinstatement process and feel like they are finally back on track.. how does this happen?.
i personally know of one example where a father of three, leaves jws, abandons wife and family, lives as a gay man then comes back 20 years later as a partaking member of the anointed..
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Sometimes it has seemed to me to be unfair that those that suffer most from this cult are those who totally believed it and who devote themselves to it. The justice seems to be that when they stop believing in the teachings wild horses can't drag them back.