Xanthippe
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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe
by Perry inthe universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.
whatever begins to exist had a cause.
therefore the universe had a cause.
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Xanthippe
Why should the cause of the universe be something big, intelligent and caring? Do planets and galaxies crashing into one another and suns going supernova, scorching planets and any life on them, suggest something big, intelligent and caring? Who knows how many stars have already gone supernova and killed intelligent life like us? Random events can be causes too. -
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The "apostacy stigmatisation" of doing research!
by stuckinarut2 ina thought occurred that the way the society has stigmatised the doing of external research by witnesses, and labelling any such questioning as "apostate", is tragic.. no doubt, in every other aspect of life, we research things before making decisions.
eg, if making a purchase, we go online and check reviews etc to check the product out.
we don't just trust the words of the marketing department.
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Please let 7 people you don't know think for you. It's what dog wants.
The Slovenian word for God is Bog. Weird things you find out watching people swearing on TV on holiday. I know, small things........
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What's all the whispering about...during the meetings, what are the brothers saying to one another...is it important? & other stuff
by tor1500 injust wondering, during the meetings, what do the brothers whisper about.
at most of the meetings i see brothers coming up to other brothers during the meetings...always whispering something...you got it i'm nosy...what is it they have to say that's so important during the meeting.
it's not just every now & again, it's all the time.... anyone here been a brother or have privy to what you whispered about ?
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&&& when you take off your sweater/coat, does the entire congregation come to help you & it feels like their taking your arm off....I want to say...I can take off my own sweater...Darn it...
I don't know what the heck they're whispering about, I don't have the necessary accoutrement, the Y chromosome. Must be very important men only business. As for lotions, what is that about? In the meeting? This is just a different religion to the one I was in. But I do remember the above, people won't let you take your own coat off or put it on without helping you, as if you're two years old. Very weird.
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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Xanthippe
Simply having same sex attraction was never grounds for judicial action.
Exactly. Nobody grew up in that religion and said I'm gay but I won't practice it. Not in the eighties. People didn't admit to same sex attraction. It wasn't done.
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I'm still on my JWN holidays but had to pop back to share this experience.
by nicolaou ini'm a postman with the royal mail and was assigned to train a new starter yesterday.
my line manager introduces me to 'dave', within seconds my jw radar was on maximum!
in his mid to late 30's, politely spoken and with that haircut - i just knew it.. the post he'd applied for was saturdays only, he said he did a lot of volunteer work.
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Hey Nic I missed you. I was just thinking about you the other day, my shed's fallen to bits and I fancy getting a summerhouse. Really interesting experience. Yes they need our empathy I agree. It's not a great way for anyone to grow up. You sound like you were really cool. -
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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Xanthippe
But an unmarried heterosexual couple living together wouldn't be allowed to be part of the congregation either so they were not making any special rules.
I didn't say they were making any special rules. I merely said it was not allowed and now it has drastically changed. A friend of ours in the '80s moved to another congregation and got disfellowshipped for homosexuality. He moved back home with his parents. Apparently repented and sat at the back of the KH trying to be reinstated for I can't remember how long being ignored. I know it was years rather than months. My husband was an elder so I knew the guy was d'fed for being gay. -
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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Xanthippe
Cofty I left twenty-seven years ago. My point is that this has drastically changed. Gay men were not allowed to be in the JW congregation at all. It's news to me as are many things on this site. The dropping of the 1914 generation in 1995 was a bombshell to me, I had no idea. That's why I came here, to find out what has changed and to see if there is any hope for my brother, sisters and nephews because of the changes.
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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality
by Designer Stubble inthe new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?
"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.
‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.
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Xanthippe
This is totally new to me, that gay men are acceptable in the WTS as long as they don't practice their sexuality. So do they have to eventually provide evidence that they have 'repented', changed, whatever, by getting married to a woman and having children? It wasn't like this when I left. Gay people were just evil, that's it. The message in the Watchtower was remember what Jehooplah did at Sodom and Gomorrah. Perhaps some new members don't know about this. More new light sneaked in under the radar. -
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HAPPY MOTHERS DAY!
by BeautifulMind infrom one beautiful mother to all of the beautiful mothers on this site & the beautiful mothers who are no longer with us - including mine (rip) - happy mothers day.
enjoy your day!
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Xanthippe
Happy Mother's Day BeautifulMind. We had ours back in March here in the UK. My lovely daughter bought me chocolates and some gorgeous-smelling hand cream. It reminds me when I left the cult I didn't know our Mothers Day was a moveable feast, I thought it was always on the same day each year, so embarrassing. -
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Gorby says goodbye
by Gorbatchov inmy eyes for ttatt opened in 1995 with the generation change and the wt magazine stated "some witness thought that the generation started in 1914".
since 1997, with internet at low speed, i followed h2o hourglass, www.xjw.com and later on www.jehovahs-witness.net.. did a bachelor and post bachelor since then.. now, nearly completed with fading, i feel it's time to go on with my life and do some other things, spending more time with my wife abd children instead of thinking about jw topics in my head.
goal is being a better person and less grumpy at 45.... everything what could be said is already said.
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Xanthippe
Gorby thanks for all your thoughtful posts. Yeah don't think too much about the crazies anymore. Until about three years ago when I looked on this forum I hadn't given them much thought for over twenty years, it was the best way for me, a complete fresh start. Have a wonderful life. 🌷🌷🌷🌷