Posts by Xanthippe

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

Xanthippe

One thing that I've noticed: making Western anti-gay videos, saying homosexual acts are wrong, disapproving of gay marriage seems to cause more outrage amongst gay communities and heterosexual progressives than when extremists push gay people off tall buildings in the name of their religion.
Why is this? It seems that Western gay people are of more worth than gay people from other areas around the globe. Are some elements of gay communities and progressives racist?

Bollocks. That article you're talking about describing the gay person being thrown of a building is from Pink News. Surely showing the outrage of the gay communities LUHE.

Frankly it was rather disingenuous of Cofty to agree with your comment and expand on it, talking about outrage porn, without mentioning to you that it was he who posted that link to Pink News to start with.

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Beliefs About What Caused the Universe

by Perry in

the universe can be observed to be expanding.. an expanding universe must have had a beginning.

whatever begins to exist had a cause.

therefore the universe had a cause.

Xanthippe

Why should the cause of the universe be something big, intelligent and caring? Do planets and galaxies crashing into one another and suns going supernova, scorching planets and any life on them, suggest something big, intelligent and caring? Who knows how many stars have already gone supernova and killed intelligent life like us? Random events can be causes too.

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The "apostacy stigmatisation" of doing research!

by stuckinarut2 in

a thought occurred that the way the society has stigmatised the doing of external research by witnesses, and labelling any such questioning as "apostate", is tragic.. no doubt, in every other aspect of life, we research things before making decisions.

eg, if making a purchase, we go online and check reviews etc to check the product out.

we don't just trust the words of the marketing department.

Xanthippe

Please let 7 people you don't know think for you. It's what dog wants.

The Slovenian word for God is Bog. Weird things you find out watching people swearing on TV on holiday. I know, small things........

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What's all the whispering about...during the meetings, what are the brothers saying to one another...is it important? & other stuff

by tor1500 in

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friends

just wondering, during the meetings, what do the brothers whisper about.

at most of the meetings i see brothers coming up to other brothers during the meetings...always whispering something...you got it i'm nosy...what is it they have to say that's so important during the meeting.

it's not just every now & again, it's all the time.... anyone here been a brother or have privy to what you whispered about ?

Xanthippe

&&& when you take off your sweater/coat, does the entire congregation come to help you & it feels like their taking your arm off....I want to say...I can take off my own sweater...Darn it...

I don't know what the heck they're whispering about, I don't have the necessary accoutrement, the Y chromosome. Must be very important men only business. As for lotions, what is that about? In the meeting? This is just a different religion to the one I was in. But I do remember the above, people won't let you take your own coat off or put it on without helping you, as if you're two years old. Very weird.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

Xanthippe

Simply having same sex attraction was never grounds for judicial action.

Exactly. Nobody grew up in that religion and said I'm gay but I won't practice it. Not in the eighties. People didn't admit to same sex attraction. It wasn't done.

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I'm still on my JWN holidays but had to pop back to share this experience.

by nicolaou in

i'm a postman with the royal mail and was assigned to train a new starter yesterday.

my line manager introduces me to 'dave', within seconds my jw radar was on maximum!

in his mid to late 30's, politely spoken and with that haircut - i just knew it.. the post he'd applied for was saturdays only, he said he did a lot of volunteer work.

Xanthippe

Hey Nic I missed you. I was just thinking about you the other day, my shed's fallen to bits and I fancy getting a summerhouse. Really interesting experience. Yes they need our empathy I agree. It's not a great way for anyone to grow up. You sound like you were really cool.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

Xanthippe

But an unmarried heterosexual couple living together wouldn't be allowed to be part of the congregation either so they were not making any special rules.

I didn't say they were making any special rules. I merely said it was not allowed and now it has drastically changed. A friend of ours in the '80s moved to another congregation and got disfellowshipped for homosexuality. He moved back home with his parents. Apparently repented and sat at the back of the KH trying to be reinstated for I can't remember how long being ignored. I know it was years rather than months. My husband was an elder so I knew the guy was d'fed for being gay.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

Xanthippe

Cofty I left twenty-seven years ago. My point is that this has drastically changed. Gay men were not allowed to be in the JW congregation at all. It's news to me as are many things on this site. The dropping of the 1914 generation in 1995 was a bombshell to me, I had no idea. That's why I came here, to find out what has changed and to see if there is any hope for my brother, sisters and nephews because of the changes.

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Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

by Designer Stubble in

the new awake is up on jw.orgwith the legalization of gay marriage in many countries, they decided it was time to show: "what does thebible say about homosexuality?

"does the bible promote prejudice?still, some people would say that the bible promotes prejudice against homosexuals and that those who adhere to itsmoral code are intolerant.

‘the bible was written at a time when people were narrow-minded,’ they claim.

Xanthippe

This is totally new to me, that gay men are acceptable in the WTS as long as they don't practice their sexuality. So do they have to eventually provide evidence that they have 'repented', changed, whatever, by getting married to a woman and having children? It wasn't like this when I left. Gay people were just evil, that's it. The message in the Watchtower was remember what Jehooplah did at Sodom and Gomorrah. Perhaps some new members don't know about this. More new light sneaked in under the radar.

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HAPPY MOTHERS DAY!

by BeautifulMind in

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friends

from one beautiful mother to all of the beautiful mothers on this site & the beautiful mothers who are no longer with us - including mine (rip) - happy mothers day.

enjoy your day!

Xanthippe

Happy Mother's Day BeautifulMind. We had ours back in March here in the UK. My lovely daughter bought me chocolates and some gorgeous-smelling hand cream. It reminds me when I left the cult I didn't know our Mothers Day was a moveable feast, I thought it was always on the same day each year, so embarrassing.