I'm so sorry. How sad for your mother to give up seeing a grandchild for a fantasy.
Xanthippe
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My mom contacted me last night...
by HereIgo inas i have revealed in other threads my mother and i havent talked in over 2 years.
she has been keeping her distance, therefore staying loyal to jehovah.
she found me on facebook.
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I Found Something Better Than "The Truth"!
by Divergent ini often come across jw's using the "worldwide brotherhood" as one of the reasons to justify that jw's have "the truth.
" such a brotherhood, they claim, would not exist outside the organisation because there is no way that people of different religions, nationalities, races, cultures, backgrounds, languages etc.
can be united and associate together freely without "the truth!".
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Xanthippe
Thank you Divergent what a fascinating site, I'd never heard of it.
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HQ move; a good thing?
by Half banana inso the new jw hq is to be in warwick and no longer that bleak architectural fixture on the brooklyn skyline.
actually it makes more sense after all, upstate new york is a more suitable place to have a unicorn ranch than in a city.
but it is just as easy to produce a drizzle of fairy dust out in the country as it had been in ny.
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Xanthippe
When we told my sister and her husband we were leaving the cult they said it must be the truth because look at all the expansion, new KHs and branch offices being built.
Now we know that KHs and branches are being closed and New York and London are moving to the country to free up cash. Yet I really think the JWs are bamboozled by these new branches. They really see it as expansion like my sister did.
Throughout history people have always needed visible evidence of God's intervention and religions give them that through grand buildings. Although some of these ugly new KHs I've seen I wonder what it says to them about their god.
I said at the time look at all the huge Cathedrals of Christendom, does that make them the true religion? Also I said to her what's the point of new buildings if they are full of miserable people who hate their lives. Suddenly all the complaints about the elders in her congregation and the way she and her husband had been treated were forgotten.
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The true sign of a Cult-Like group is:
by stuckinarut2 injust thought we could have a concise thread listing the signs of a high control, or cult-like group:.
feel free to add to the list:.
the true sign of a cult-like group is:.
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Xanthippe
Keeping its members ignorant by discouraging them from reading non-cult books and getting further education.
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Hello everyone
by Lancashirelass ini just wanted to add my name to the many number of people who have awakened from the cult.
i have been lurking for probably 2 years now.
and i'm quite certain there are many more lurking and reading just like me.. i have to be honest and say that i most likely will not be contributing much to the discussion board.
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Xanthippe
Xanthippe - Thank you for the welcome. I hope your daughter is enjoying her time there.
Yes she is thanks. Made lots of friends and working on the student union council.
Glad you're enjoying the single life, there's a lot to be said for it. Leave the dishes until tomorrow, pour a glass of wine, watch what you want on telly. I've discovered I like to listen to classic fm all the time instead of that damn talk radio.
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Hello everyone
by Lancashirelass ini just wanted to add my name to the many number of people who have awakened from the cult.
i have been lurking for probably 2 years now.
and i'm quite certain there are many more lurking and reading just like me.. i have to be honest and say that i most likely will not be contributing much to the discussion board.
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Xanthippe
Hi and welcome. My daughter is doing her masters at Lancaster. I find Lancashire people to be very friendly and chatty. Glad you are fading and keeping family contacts. Enjoy your wine, my favourite tipple. 🍷
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Why is religion in general so obsessed with what people choose to do with their willies and vaginas?
by jambon1 inwhat was it in the evolution of religion that got them so hung up about what people do with their genitalia?.
i mean, the (mis)use of genitalia is up there with murdering another human being in terms of badness.. and in the 21st century, we have a situation where in the jw religion, it's deemed as acceptable for three middle aged/old men to sit a teenage girl down and ask her the details of her use of her genitals.
to any normal person this is intrusive, completely inappropriate and bordering on deviancy.. why they so obsessed?.
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Xanthippe
BTW if the writer of the question is a woman stop complaining! No one
said you had to cut off part of your privates to make God happy!
You obviously never heard of FGM.
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The one oclock meeting
by Steel ini go to a hall (very rarely) with a single cong of about 60 people in a small city of maybe 10000. our board of elders is a bunch of childless weirdos or at least the ones that make an effort.. they recently changed the sunday meeting time from 10/12 to 1/ 3. a number of us are pissed off.
its makes to hard to drive to the city or go to a football game.. i just know the gestopo elders behind the change.
if your life isnt as miserable or pointless as theirs, they arent doing their job.
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Xanthippe
It's like everything in the religion is just to make life suck.
Now you're getting it.
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How about prayers being used as a talk?
by NikL inanother thread on here made me think of it.. its a personal peeve of mine.. you bow your head in prayer and the brother says thinks like thank you for the lessons we learned today like bla bla bla and for that wonderful point about yadda yadda yadda.
jehovah we know that etc etc etc therefore we must...well you get the gist.and on and on it goes.
absolutely drives me mad..
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Xanthippe
It proves what I've long suspected, most JWs don't believe in God. They don't believe they're talking to anyone. They grow up in the religion, it becomes a habit, they pray like do everything else to impress other people or keep elders off their back.
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Christmas is Coming!
by Drifting Away inso, this will be a time of much confusion.
being a born in, and wanting to celebrate my first christmas is confusing, nerve wracking, and difficult to comprehend.
how have others dealt with there first christmas after leaving?
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Xanthippe
Just do what you want. If you just want to give your kids presents and not have decorations yet go with that. Christmas dinner well that's just a meal, you can have it as simple or as fancy as you want.
We didn't have a tree until the second year we were out but the smell of a real tree fills your house for weeks and is gorgeous. Your kids will adore decorating it. If you feel odd doing it pour yourself a glass of wine and chill out that's what we did and it became our tradition. Get the box of decorations down from upstairs, pop a bottle of bubbly. 😀
Write a few cards for people at work and neighbours if you feel like it, they'll be delighted.
Your kids will have such a brilliant time and yes they are pretending they don't mind not joining in. They hate it just like you did but they're young enough to forget it all and learn all new Xmas traditions. Have a wonderful time!