Hi Jules welcome to the forum. It's tough I know reading all this new information but take your time and above all don't talk to JW family about it yet. I know it's a lot to take in but you will survive and you have a great future ahead of you. Come here and talk about all of your thoughts and the great people here will do their best to help.
Xanthippe
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Hello
by Jules Saturn inhello, i've been lurking for quite some time here on this forum, reading a whole lot and i've finally made the courage to create an account as a form of escape and in hopes to be understood and not feel "mentally diseased".
little background on me, i am a born in but i consider myself a pimo (physically in mentally out).
i feel like i've always had doubts but these doubts would sink with the meetings and the assemblies and every other little thing that drowns any doubts a witness may have.
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New Kingdom Halls in Strip Malls & Real Estate Listings
by 4thgen ini met with a jw today and they showed me a picture of the new style kh build.
the building was located in a ***strip mall**** in florida.
i'm always amazed (and disgusted) at the new and inventive ways they think of expanding their real estate holdings.. along that vein...i recently discovered this: .
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Xanthippe
Yeah Joe I was a little culture shocked there for a while 😜
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New Kingdom Halls in Strip Malls & Real Estate Listings
by 4thgen ini met with a jw today and they showed me a picture of the new style kh build.
the building was located in a ***strip mall**** in florida.
i'm always amazed (and disgusted) at the new and inventive ways they think of expanding their real estate holdings.. along that vein...i recently discovered this: .
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Xanthippe
Okay so now I've googled it and found out the KH you're talking about is not in a red light district full of strippers but in a shopping centre!
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10 years on.....
by snare&racket ini was a window cleaner, i was at the time unemployed, homeless.
i had no education to be proud of (high school one a two b's rest c's) i was a jehovahs witness.
i had been a pioneer.
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Xanthippe
I'm so glad you're happy S&R. Really pleased that you're respected as a doctor and you have great friends and a wonderful relationship. I also am overjoyed that a well-educated person like you has the world view where it's okay to say 'we dont know'.
You've always come across as a very humble sincere person so good luck in your life and thanks for your inspirational story.
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Do I have to believe in Jesus to be saved?
by unsure indo i have to believe in jesus to be saved?.
i was raised as a jehovah's witness.
i was born in.
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Xanthippe
Is there something wrong with listening to both sides?
Nothing at all wrong with that. I like your questions and am interested to hear believer's responses too. There are a few on this forum.
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why jw's commit suicide?
by notalone inwe all know the rate of suicide is high among jw's.
my question is this- was there some subliminal messages that encourage this.
i was a born in and my entire life i would have these thoughts that could come out of nowhere,"kill yourself.
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Xanthippe
I think, as someone who had clinical depression in that religion in my twenties, that the teachings makes you feel everything is pointless.
Hobbies are pointless - you should be doing more on FS instead. Travel is pointless, 'we can do that in the new system'. Learning a musical instrument is pointless, 'we can do that in .........
Going to the gym, 'physical exercise is beneficial for a little but Godly devotion' yadda, yadda.
Volunteering or giving to charity - 'you have the poor always with you' and big J will sort out poverty and suffering - any day now!
Reading for pleasure or self education is pointless, 'to the making of many books there is no end and much devotion to them is wearisome to the soul'.
It's nearly thirty years since I read the Bible or a WTS book but this nonsense remains in my memory. This cult destroys our joy in life. They rubbish everything that gives any pleasure to human existence. I had the phrase 'what's the point?' in my head for many years notalone. Can you wonder that people take their own lives?
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I'm giving up in 2017! (More steps in my fading)
by Skepsis inwhen i joined this site at the beginning of this year, i was serving as an uber-zealous regular pioneer and ms in a foreign congregation where the need is greater.
i was giving public talks and having parts at regional conventions.
had started to have doubts but i hadn't time to focus on them, i simply was overcharged with so many activities and things to do.. i started by quitting pioneering but couldn't think i would give further steps for a long time.
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Xanthippe
Well done Skepsis, hope you are doing okay missing friends today. Do something fun and take your mind off it all. You deserve it.
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Russell's Pyramidology Originated In Edinburgh Scotland
by cofty inthe edinburgh city observatory sits atop calton hill at the east end of the city centre adjacent to burn's monument, scotland's national monument modelled on the parthenon, and nelson's monument with the time ball that falls at 1pm every day except sundays.. .
the second astronomer royal of edinburgh was charles piazzi smyth (jan. 1819 - feb. 1900).
smyth was a man of many and varied interests including meteorology, producing weather observations that still form an important part of uk climate records to this day.. building on the work of james taylor, smyth became fascinated by the great pyramid of egypt at giza.
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Xanthippe
Fascinating thank you Cofty. Imagine explaining that to a householder. Using four random Bible verses to get to 1914 was bad enough!
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Does Christianity Promote Self Hatred?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini think that christianity's teachings pose a very unproductive world view and are a danger to our survival.
their teachings that man is sinful and worthy of death and in need of a savior to rescue him and free him of his sinful tendencies or else feel the wrath of god.
these things that condemn man as sinful are his own powerful drives given to him at conception which he now must deny due to indoctrination and consign to his shadow(jungian).
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Xanthippe
Their teachings that man is sinful and worthy of death and in need of a savior to rescue him and free him of his sinful tendencies or else feel the wrath of God.
Yes of course it promotes self hatred and also hatred of other people. Now we know we are simply another animal on this planet that has drives to survive, to gather stuff around us so we don't starve or freeze to death and also to reproduce, it becomes clear we don't have sins just animal instincts.
When our instincts are in conflict with the needs of others it can make us seem selfish but we're all just trying to survive. Babies are born little animals with instincts and needs, they're not born full of sin! What a vile teaching!
We're not broken, we don't need saving. We need loving parents who help us to fill our needs and teach us how to live around other people so that our needs don't conflict with theirs and cause pain. That's what we need, not religion telling us we're broken and need fixing, anymore than a kitten or puppy is broken, they're just new.
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She's here and early! 27 weeks 1day.
by Darkknight757 inso as of july 2nd my wife delivered by c-section our little one pound, three ounce daughter izabella.
it was a very scary night that started with a decel and turned into multiple decels that greatly concerned the doctors.
by early morning they felt the need to take her for her safety.
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Xanthippe
Congratulations! What a wonderful story to hear today. Wishing health to your beautiful baby daughter and strength to you and your wife in this stressful time. 🎈🍼🎀💖