If they allowed our families and friends to treat us normally how long would it take for them to realise we haven't gone to the Devil and what we say makes a lot of sense.
Xanthippe
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Why the vitriolic hate?
by stuckinarut2 ini am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.
why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.
surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.
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ARC recommendations. Read for yourselves
by zeb inhttps://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/2017-08/report-on-criminal-justice-released.
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Xanthippe
The report recommends making failure to report child sexual abuse in institutions a criminal offence. This recommendation extends to information given in religious confessions. Clergy should not be able to refuse to report because the information was received during confession.
Wow at last, elders won't be able to use the 'clergy confessional ' excuse in Australia if this becomes law. Brilliant!
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How Do You Feel About Trump's Tuff Talk To Korea To Make Korea Behave?
by Brokeback Watchtower ini know or think i know that trump is bluffing and acting very bully like with threats of unleashing his power as commander and chief a military with super weapons.
but why bluff with such boyish stupidity?
i think mr trumps barginings skills are at an all time low and so the threats of violence and retaliation for misbehaving according to the whims of a narcissist.. my confidence in him is at an all time low, talk about cave man club you over the head approach to problems this guy takes the cake.
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Xanthippe
Two of the biggest egos on the planet may have the power to start world war three. How do you think I feel?
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If you had two years to live what changes in lifestyle would you do?
by Chook inre-evaluating time and tying lose ends can be complex.
don't worry this chook won't go down without a fight.
just think if i had a short period of time i would let my hair down .
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Xanthippe
See India, Africa, New Zealand, Canadian Rockies, China ( I'm not a communist btw Morpheus), Thailand, Vietnam, Cambodia.
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Sexist Watchtower quote makes me so angry
by Phoebe injohn cedars latest youtube video refers to last weekend's wt study article which some have referred to on another thread but i am truly outraged at the continuing misogynist attitude toward women.
not only did that study article say if women have a family to care for it will stop them gossiping or meddling into other people's affairs, lloyd shares on his video a talk by sam herd from when he was a c.o in 1971.
(i hope he has since changed his opinion!
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Xanthippe
Apparently, not only do women have a smaller brain and can't make decisions because we're too emotional, if we do think we can do a job as good as an elder we are borderline homosexual.
JWs are the most sexist people I have ever met. All that trash about women being the first mate to the husband's steering the family ship because they're not biologically made to cope with running a family. How the heck do they think women run businesses and even countries?
That 'family' book used to make me spit. 'If he's cross when he gets home and dinner isn't ready calm him down and get him a drink of juice'. Get your own bloody drink, I've had a hell of a day at work, then I had to pick up our child from the childminders and now I'm making dinner. Get me a drink while you're at it. Make it a red wine.
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How smart were the ancients?
by Coded Logic ingrowing up as a jw, i always thought the ancients were scientific morons who knew next to nothing.
ashamedly, i used to run around citing isaiah 40:22 as proof of the bible's 'divine authorship' because it talked about "the circle of the earth".
as though this were somehow an unknowable before spaceflight.
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Xanthippe
Yeah google Atomists. The ancient Greeks were incredible.
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"Even if this wasn't the truth, I would still stay. This is the best life to live..."
by HereIgo ini was recently told this by a jw family member when trying to get through to them.
does this quote indicate that maybe such ones have considered that the jw's may not have the truth after all?
or is that just my wishful thinking?
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Xanthippe
They mean even if the new system isn't coming the JW way of life, moral, loving your neighbour etc is the best way.
Since being out and meeting ordinary people I find that in every group you find the odd one who is very unpleasant, who will stab you in the back soon as look at you, but in JWs I felt I was in a whole hall full of people who hated me, hated themselves, hated their lives.
If you've never been among normal people try it, there's more love and kindness in the world than you'll ever find in a KH.
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A disturbing reaction.
by longgone inearlier today i was listening to a you tube video about brain plasticity, how our minds aren't hardwired, and that by changing the way we think it can make actual physical changes in the brain.
which is cool for many reasons.
one in particular for me and likely any ex jw is that the way the wts has programmed us, especially those born in, can eventually get past it.
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Xanthippe
Good grief you have Christian music at your doctors and the thrift store? What a weird country. Yes Christian stuff does make me feel ill now, I get you. I'm interested in brain plasticity too and also in the ability to switch on dormant genes. Very interesting.
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Instructions to remove old WT information from kh libraries
by Half banana ina pimo friend (physically in mentally out) has just informed me that the cult has decided that they want to suppress all old jw org information by removing bound volumes etc from kh libraries.. in reality, all through their history they have claimed divine "new light" as a means of changing uncomfortable doctrines.
this however would mean that new jws, or more likely these days young jws, will be prevented from seeing the old light which had been held up as divinely inspired truth in the past.. truth which would get you through big a and which if you didn't agree with would get you disfellowshipped.. anyone else heard of this?
what might be the reasons (if true) for removing the old wts?.
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Xanthippe
Care should be taken not to discard items that have historical significance. The branch may want to add such items to its library or to its archive of historical material.
So I take it that as a gentle reminder has to be taken as a command from the GB, this means don't let any R+F take an old book home, make sure they are sent to the branch. They don't want any 'old light' getting out. Remember many new converts and newly adult born-ins know nothing about the 1914, one generation to paradise prophecies.
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Spirit directed vs inspired
by Jules Saturn ini've always been confused as to what the discrepancy is between the phrases "spirit directed/spirit led" and "inspired".
in the february 2017 watchtower study article, paragraph 12 says:.
12 the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
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Xanthippe
An inspired utterance is we need more money or volunteers to build an assembly hall. Spirit directed is when they get the dates for the end of the system wrong.
I hate that whenever you try to explain this to someone, they look at you as if you have the issue
Thats what happened to me Jules when I was a young person in that religion. I used to ask everyone how they understood the ransom sacrifice teaching. A man being tortured to death for us always seemed wrong to me. They used to look at me as if I was stupid or mad.