Xanthippe

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  Too Many Categories That Most People Fall Into ... L G B T Q C G D ... I Get Confused

  by RubaDub in

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  it seems like we are all getting pigeon-holed into a category that may or may not be applicable to us.

  personally, i am a "d" but i am sure there are a few (though statistically insignificant) who would otherwise fall into an "o" or other category.. it just seems like society needs to label us in the l g b t q c g d communities.. rub a dub.

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  I don't understand you beyond LGBTQ, can you explain or is this your usual jokiness?
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  Is there a surge in "Upwakers"?

  by Phizzy in

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  2. beliefs

  the stupid word in the topic title is a piss-take on the bloody silly jw word "needgreaters" that i have seen them use.. but my question is genuine, i know it is a cyclical thing, we get what seems to be a lot of newbies, and then things quieten down, but not just on here, elsewhere on social media i am seeing stories of people finding the courage to leave, having woken up for a variety of reasons, but usually the child abuse scandal, and the spiteful, judgmental nature of many jw's, who, though supposedly friends, will run off to the elders to snitch on you, not talk to you.

  is their a real increase in those leaving ?

  i do hope so, so many more finding real freedom and happiness !.

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  It's certainly been a busy few days on here for people waking up. Plus an account of a CO spilling the beans in the eulogy at his father's KH funeral. Speeding it up in its own time 😀
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  Hello Everyone, Another JW Has Left!

  by SuperGirl in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just want to introduce myself and let you know that this site is working and is a big help to lots of jws with doubts.

  i've been lurking for about a year, the first couple of times i was frightened and literally shaking visiting an apostate site but it's the only place i can come to for sanity.

  the religion has become a nut house.

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  Hi Supergirl. It's good to hear that many JWs are questioning the changes and leaving. Typical calling that long-time pioneer useless, as soon as you stop slaving away they drop you. I'm glad you're making friends and that your son and his father are out. Welcome to freedom and fun!
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  Two witness rule: who cares?

  by _Morpheus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i find people railing against the so called “two witness rule” puzzling.

  i think its a complete and total non issue.

  for those that protest, argue or advocate for change in that rule, why?

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  But this is about the people who believe that the organization speak on the behalf of God. Of course that for these people every rule matter. -redvip

  Precisely my point. It's so easy to forget how the rules matter when you've been out a while. You're disobedient to the rules, you get thrown out, no panda paradise.
  
  
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  Two witness rule: who cares?

  by _Morpheus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i find people railing against the so called “two witness rule” puzzling.

  i think its a complete and total non issue.

  for those that protest, argue or advocate for change in that rule, why?

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  It's in the Bible and reinforced by the religion so JWs feel to defy the rule is to defy Jehoobah and therefore lose everlasting life for themselves and their children.

  Like all the other rules, no university, no blood, no birthdays, it adversely affects their children but they reason better to keep to the rules than lose everlasting life. Stupid? Yes, but all of us here used to believe it!

  That's why it's a terrible rule that's destroying lives. It's emotional blackmail keeping them from reporting it to the police and keeping the pedophiles roaming the organization freely.
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  If you are reading this Courtney and Helene

  by newsheep in

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  2. experiences

  please please contact us by private messaging us.

  we didn't know what to put this under so sorry in advance but this is why we are here.

  courtney was a co serving in another country when his father was dying.

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  The death of a parent often brings reality right down on your head and Courtney must have felt he could no longer fight it.

  Welcome to the forum newsheep, I hope you find them.
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  My sister passed away this evening

  by smiddy3 in

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  2. family

  it was only about two months ago she was diagnosed with lung cancer and she was a non smoker .. she was never a jw and she never held it against me that i was for 33 years.. we had a good relationship even though we lived in different states about 2000 miles apart,.. tears are rolling down my cheeks as i type this .

  r.i.p.

  sylvia .

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  I am so sorry Smiddy. Nothing I can say will make this any better but I am here for you.
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  Commuter Bethelite video

  by no-zombie in

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  for those who missed last weeks clam meeting, there was a video played that was amazing ... however not in good way.. we are all aware how thousands of full time bethelites world wide got the boot and put out onto the street.

  some having giving most of their lives to the organization, but often with no real way to support themselves other than to depend on the generosity of others.

  so when this video talked about how special it would be for those who could step up and become a commuter bethelite, it made me think how calculating the governing body must be.

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  This is a very cynical sacking of live-in volunteers saying they're no longer needed and then asking for commuter volunteers. Barefaced lying for one thing! From the religion of truth! Lacking in compassion for all the 'lifers' who have nowhere to go and zero pension. Why don't the r&f wake up?
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  My brother-in-law is mentally out!

  by Kathy1978 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so....i’m going to rewind for a second.

  one of my brother-in-laws came over one evening late in 2016, november i think, just to hang out.

  we hadn’t seen him in a while and this is before we told anyone in his family we were out.

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  That's great news Kathy and it sounds like it was down to your husband being honest with him but not pushing him. Must be lovely for your husband to have his brother out.
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  Did Ray Franz Help You To Get Out of “The Truth”?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i sneakily read his books at work.

  it was written in such a way that no one could accuse him of being another bitter old apostate.. once it registered in my brain, especially after reading the second book, i knew i had to get out!.

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  Oh yes he did. We were absolutely baffled by corrupt elders in our congregation so we moved to another congregation and were treated badly by those elders.

  We went to the library and were looking in the religious section so I guess we were ready for answers because that's not something we'd done before.

  There on the shelf was Crisis of Conscience, we read it until the small hours and then we knew the whole organization was corrupt. We left a few months later. That guy has helped so many people.

  This was in '89 not long after the whole big US apostate scandal which we later learned was about Ray Franz and the others. We were so grateful he didn't just go off and live his life, which he could have done, but he helped us leave too.