what would happen?
(a thought experiment) what if it were possible to gather bible students from pastor russell's day in a large auditorium with the rutherford era followers, and then bring in the brother knorr (my era) crowd along with present day jw's and get them chatting with each other?all that new light with all that old light (which thought it had new light) would be in for a shock.would they humble themselves and decide present day governing body doctrine changes and tv style begging for money was acceptable?what do you think?i think it would be chaos and denunciation.
i could be wrong, buti don't think so..
Conversations over lunch something like, oh you can have all medical treatment we're not Christian Scientists!
No you can't have blood transfusion or IVF.
You're wrong you can have blood fractions and IVF is a conscience matter if using the parents eggs and sperm.
What you're an apostate, get behind me Satan!
just thought i'd randomly check in on watchtower's ebay account for fun.
still selling thousands of used and vintage electronics and office supplies, even some laserdisc movies lol.. .
I didn't know that either tiki but I'm quite sure if I told my family they would say apostate lies.
https://www.facebook.com/sarita.piti/posts/2613606355321841.
https://www.facebook.com/roger.bentley.986/posts/526951087814763.
https://www.facebook.com/sarita.piti/posts/2618755001473643.
Ironic that the Catholic Church, hated by the JWs, is unwittingly providing support to the WTS hiding child abuse. I suppose it's not surprising with all the money and clout the RC have but good that the bill hasn't been withdrawn only put on pause. Thanks for the update.
What a brilliant vid, thanks for posting. This guy is so clear and concise and he's talking about his job and his own involvement which makes it real.
chapter one.
the monorails of mars (1905) ____.
like watchful eyes—the twin moons of mars voyeured above the chaos.
I love Louise Boyd. I don't know who is disliking this book? Why! Just one small gripe, you've got Amundsen and Clayton in the library talking about Nobile who's on Mars, then Nobile is running his hand over the book spines.
it could be argued that exjws have issues in life simply because they were jehovah’s witnesses at a point in their lives.
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do you think you or we are fairly normal considering we were jehovah’s witnesses or do you think we have a lot of baggage because we are a bit messed up ( even if we don’t even know it)?.
There's so may bad situations to be born into all over the earth.
War zones, terrible poverty, corrupt governments keeping the poor people down.
Disabilty, congenital illness, violent abusive parents. Natural disasters constantly plaguing your country.
Being born into a religious cult was horrible but I'm in good company. Lots of suffering people, many trying to recover from their early life.
I was sent a leaflet once by a charity describing a woman from an African nation who fled to London. She watched all her children being murdered then was raped and now can't stop wondering around on London buses looking for her children. Too many broken hearts in the world.
Surprisingly this doesn't make me feel negative about life I just think we're all in this together, all humanity. It helps me feel a kinship with other people.
a few weeks ago the watchtower study condemned the teaching of hellfire, among other things, because some religions have used the hellfire doctrine as a justification for torture:.
the false teaching of hellfire has been used to justify torture, including the burning at the stake of those who opposed church teachings.
according to a book on the spanish inquisition, some of those responsible for this cruelty may have believed that they were only giving heretics “a taste of what perpetual hellfire would be like” so that they would repent before dying and be saved from hellfire.. it occurs to me that jws justify disfellowshipping on a similar basis.
Most religions use fear of final judgement to manipulate their members to obey.
What I find most objectionable is JWs use of Jesus' torturous and likely fictitious death to guilt members into a life of sacrifice and deprivation.
chapter one.
the monorails of mars (1905) ____.
like watchful eyes—the twin moons of mars voyeured above the chaos.
Brilliantly written Terry. The whole time thing is intriguing. I'm hooked. So long since I've read any decent sci-fi.
chapter one.
the monorails of mars (1905) ____.
like watchful eyes—the twin moons of mars voyeured above the chaos.
Curiouser and curiouser!
i will try to keep it as short as possible.
so if it seems abrupt sorry, or if any questions do ask n i will fill you in.. update to the news of 5 people leaving(2 couples n a single sis).. they have been in touch with my pimi friends( the ones who shared their news with me).
in conversation my name came up.. one couple who have been very involved in spiritual activities .they are a nice couple from what little i know about them.they had moved around quite a bit in need greater too so they have come in contact with lots of boe's, co's, r n f; n experience with them which goes without saying.. long story short while moving about to different places, they heard about the csa lawsuits.
Thanks Zing, it's amazing to think that people they meet in the ministry can help them see the facts.
A couple of people tried to help me. One was a psychologist who said she had many JW patients. Another was a university lecturer in philosophy who tried to show my husband and myself that people have wondered about the big questions in life for millennia. I wish we'd listened but it shows there's good people out there.
