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  Millions of flies now living may NEVER die!

  by Nathan Natas in

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  from: http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_502610.html?menu= .

  scientists move closer to finding 'elixir of life' .

  scientists working on a discovering an elixir of life say it has already worked on fruit flies.. the drug is said to increase longevity while maintaining youthful health.. us researchers are confident enough to be planning a new set of experiments on mice.

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  NEW LIGHT COMING SOON!!!

  Millions of mice now living will soon be able to expect to never die! Mice the world over join millions of fruit flies in praising jehovah. Rats wonder, can we expect life too?

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  Physical Appearance since leaving the JW's

  by jolly_green_giant in

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  i was never baptised when i attended the kingdom hall so i went to the meetings with sholder length hair (with my jw parents).

  one time i had been approached by the elders concerning this matter.

  they asked me if i planned to cut my hair and progress in the truth and get baptised.

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  I've grown horns, a long red tail, scales on my back. I roam the streets all night long, slobbering as i go, and sleep all day long.

  Just kidding. The only difference is my hair is a bit longer.

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  PS How is the weed patch coming?
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  Are We Animals?

  by Satanus in

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  the way i understand it, evolution posits that we are just a higher species of animal.

  if that is true, then it follows that everything that humans have invented, such as societal rules, politeness, high technology, spirituality, are just another evolutionary adaptation to survive better.. christianity, on the other hand claims a vast gulf, an order of magnitude division between man and beast.

  we are divine, although flawed.

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  TJ

  You could be right. Someone made the statement that christianity is death oriented. So what are the christian elements?

  love
  judgementalism
  self sacrifice
  control of base passions
  store treasures in heaven, not earth
  preach
  pray
  looking after others
  faith

  Christians, feel free to add to this list. I don't see much here that would promote reliance on the self for survival. I think you are right, TJ.

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  Are We Animals?

  by Satanus in

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  the way i understand it, evolution posits that we are just a higher species of animal.

  if that is true, then it follows that everything that humans have invented, such as societal rules, politeness, high technology, spirituality, are just another evolutionary adaptation to survive better.. christianity, on the other hand claims a vast gulf, an order of magnitude division between man and beast.

  we are divine, although flawed.

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  At the beginning, i listed 3 possible views on this topic.

  1.The atheistic view
  2.The christian view
  3.The new age/eastern view

  People are familiar w the first two views. However, the third view includes aspects of the other two. The third view could be called pantheism. It basically means that god is all, or all is god.

  We could then say that we are all a chip off the old block. Our spark of life, our soul/spirit is a god particle. God is spirit is life. And the reverse: all life is spirit is god. This theory would include within it the idea of jesus' statement that his opposers were gods. On the other hand, it elevates animals and nature, as their life forces, whether conscious or unconscious are divine. It leads us humans into a kinship w nature, w the animals, and w the universe itself. Life is still a struggle, but we can attempt to find a way to harmonize our ways w the ways of nature. Perhaps the struggle can be reduced or become inconsequential. We accept the death of the body as a natural process, and the spirit/soul passes on to the next level. The fear of death is gone from our lives as it is from most animals. It is acceptable that we are animals, but also acceptable that animals have a divine spark.

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  Are We Animals?

  by Satanus in

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  the way i understand it, evolution posits that we are just a higher species of animal.

  if that is true, then it follows that everything that humans have invented, such as societal rules, politeness, high technology, spirituality, are just another evolutionary adaptation to survive better.. christianity, on the other hand claims a vast gulf, an order of magnitude division between man and beast.

  we are divine, although flawed.

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  NN

  Good points, you rebelliouth aseist (oops). I think in pictures/symbols often. I wonder, do physicist think in numbers? Would numbers be classified as symbols as well? Questions not necesarily directed at you, open to anyone.

  Your mention of dreaming brings back to mind an article i read a couple of yrs ago in the new scientist mag about my roach friends. It said that by the movements they make while asleep, scientists (don't remember their names) concluded roaches probably dream.

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  Are We Animals?

  by Satanus in

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  the way i understand it, evolution posits that we are just a higher species of animal.

  if that is true, then it follows that everything that humans have invented, such as societal rules, politeness, high technology, spirituality, are just another evolutionary adaptation to survive better.. christianity, on the other hand claims a vast gulf, an order of magnitude division between man and beast.

  we are divine, although flawed.

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  Jan

  Good point. So when people make the claim that we are 'higher' than animals, it's a type of circular reasoning. Our species' time on the earth is popularly believed to be about 50,000 yrs as compared to millions of years during which dinosaurs ruled the earth. It could be possible for us to wipe ourselves out w nuclear or biological weapons. Roaches would survive, that's for sure. Are they better survivors than we are? Probably.

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  Are We Animals?

  by Satanus in

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  the way i understand it, evolution posits that we are just a higher species of animal.

  if that is true, then it follows that everything that humans have invented, such as societal rules, politeness, high technology, spirituality, are just another evolutionary adaptation to survive better.. christianity, on the other hand claims a vast gulf, an order of magnitude division between man and beast.

  we are divine, although flawed.

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  Francois

  I think about thinking a lot, and so have procrastinated quite a bit. I must be a high level being. Thanks

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  Are We Animals?

  by Satanus in

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  the way i understand it, evolution posits that we are just a higher species of animal.

  if that is true, then it follows that everything that humans have invented, such as societal rules, politeness, high technology, spirituality, are just another evolutionary adaptation to survive better.. christianity, on the other hand claims a vast gulf, an order of magnitude division between man and beast.

  we are divine, although flawed.

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  Marilyn

  Perv - I thought it was an appreciation for beauty, and so a divine trait;) Seriously though, i think that sex, sex drive, materialism, competition, killing animals to eat, and the methods women use to attract men are all animalistic traits.

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  Are We Animals?

  by Satanus in

  1. jw
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  the way i understand it, evolution posits that we are just a higher species of animal.

  if that is true, then it follows that everything that humans have invented, such as societal rules, politeness, high technology, spirituality, are just another evolutionary adaptation to survive better.. christianity, on the other hand claims a vast gulf, an order of magnitude division between man and beast.

  we are divine, although flawed.

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  The way i understand it, evolution posits that we are just a higher species of animal. If that is true, then it follows that everything that humans have invented, such as societal rules, politeness, high technology, spirituality, are just another evolutionary adaptation to survive better.

  Christianity, on the other hand claims a vast gulf, an order of magnitude division between man and beast. We are divine, although flawed. Yet, not divine to the level claimed by new age theory and eastern religions. Christianity claims that we should eradicate all animalism within us, becoming perfect in gods sight.

  And so, my subject of question is: which of mans habits/tendencies are animal, which are divine, orinating from our supposedly being imaged on god?

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  New a good term instead of born-again

  by Skeptic in

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  i have been associated with many religious groups over the years, mainly the catholics, jehovah's witnesses, and various evangelical born-again groups.. i often use the term born-again on this forum.

  i normally mean born-again in reference to evangelical born-again groups, "fundies", etc.. a couple of posters here have told me that they find the way i used the term born-again offensive.

  they rightly tell me that most christians believe that they are born-again...hence, my comments offend them.. so, folks, can we come up with a more accurate term?

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  Christians really don't need to label themselves, because other christians will label them as soon as they find the smallest point to disagree with.

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