I see it seems a varied system of belief but all here no longer believe in a personal God. That's a start to true enlightenment in my opinion.
Posts by kpop
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Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?
by kpop inalone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.
after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.
" shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .
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Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?
by kpop inalone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.
after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.
" shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .
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kpop
Here I am. Alone, without my safety net of "God" being there to remember me when I die. After much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, I have come to the conclusion that there is no "God" at least certainly no loving, personal "God." Shortly before my final conclusion was reached, I read an excerpt from an expression attributed to Marcus Aurelius,
"Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.”
I know there is debate if he really said this or not, but the point is still valid and I believe the only way to live life. If you die and there happens to be a God, a loving God, then he should forgive you because you made an error. If you die and there happens to be a God, a loving God and he doesn't forgive you then he's not a loving God and doesn't deserve worship. Tell him to go to hell. If there is no God, well, you're dead anyways and it doesn't matter because you don't know you're dead. You're just dead. The only thing that might bother you while still living would be knowing you would leave loved ones behind and they will suffer for a while without you until their own death comes. Thus the cycle of life.
I'm content, and happy with my prospect. I feel complete actually. No more absurd religious beliefs and contradictions. No more debate. Just a simple answer to our end. It brings inner peace. I understand that not everyone has the mental and "spiritual" fortitude or intelligence to accept this conclusion. I understand that this conclusion can cause one to go insane and perhaps, religion is a necessary evil in this world for the lower intelligence humans. It gives them their inner peace. That's fine too. Whatever gets you through this life. What are your thoughts?
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Everyday expressions used by JWs that are NOT in the bible...
by stuckinarut2 inreading another thread made me realise that there are numerous expressions used as everyday witness terminology, that is not in the bible.... such as:.
governing body.
paradise earth.
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kpop
"Please friends, remember to turn in your time."
"We now accept credit cards and debit cards at the donation boxes."
I know, phrases but still. Sounds like another scam to me and everybody covered all the good ones already! ;)
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THIS Is How Muslim Mother “Fixes” Rape Of 2-Year-Old Granddaughter By Grandfather
by Hecce insaw this dated 2/26/2017, seems to be from 12/2015.. .
even in a religious culture that advocates the murder of victims as honorable, fathers and brothers are typically the perpetrators of horrific violence against female family members whose only crime was to be the victim of another, the killing of a child by its mother stands out as particularly unnatural and depraved.such a heinous act occurred recently in sohag, egypt when a mother of a two-year-old child took the life of her child rather than protect it from violent sexual assault by its own grandfather.. a muslim mother identified only as “merfat” was awakened by screams in the middle of the night and found her father, faraj, in the act of raping her daughter.. .
rather than acting out of a natural, protective instinct, the 23-year-old mother chose to shield her father from scandal as taught by muslim theology and sharia law.. merfat told authorities that she took her daughter, little grace ahmed, from the grandfather, placed her in a tub and held her head under water until the child drown.. alik akhmim, chief detective of the police in sohag told egyptian reporters that “traces of blood” had been found in the little girl’s anus, evidencing the degree of force and injury the child endured at the hands of her mother’s father.. this kind of act is referred to as an “honor killing” thought to place the reputation of the family above that of any individual member, and which is used to punish the victim rather than hold the perpetrator accountable.. murdering rape victims is common in countries and communities that adhere to sharia law where the crime is rarely reported for fear of exposing the family to shame.. “honor killing” is no longer limited to predominantly muslim countries or the middle east.
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kpop
So true. For some reason the left has decided to hide the truth. What happened to being true journalists? Even Google and Facebook are now guilty of this. (Please see 4chan for more info about this. They are going to do data dump soon) But more interesting is how the media attacked Trump for speaking about how bad things are in Sweden. Swedish media made jokes about it, even said what problem? There is no problem here. So one leftist journalist decided to investigate if what Trump said was true or not and went to Sweden. When he got there, he was told to leave immediately by police after he was confronted and followed by masked men.
Here are his tweets. Very scary.
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/836936966822375425/video/1
https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/836934364772589569/video/1
Edit: He wanted to prove Trump wrong and show it is more safe in Sweden than in USA. Amazing irony. I think he learned his lesson.
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A question to Non-US forum members.
by Spoletta innow that trump is on his way to making america great again, will you consider moving here where you can get the best healthcare and education that anyone with a lot of money can buy, plus the ability to buy all the guns you need to protect yourself?
and it gets better!
if you are caucasian, you need never worry about discrimination.. am anxious to hear your replies.
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kpop
I am curious. All of the Trump haters, did you watch his speech last night? Do you still think he is literally Hitler?
I thought it was his best speech ever. Even on CNN Mr Van Jones who is a communist was praising his speech and said if he keeps this up that he could win 8 years. I thought he was going to make a joke. Then he said, last night Trump officially became President of the USA. I fell out of my chair.
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Sample Disassociation Letter please?
by LifesNotOver ini want to send a disassociation letter to the elders at my old congregation.
how do i address it and what wording do i use?
i know it's not something i have to do, it's symbolic for me.
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kpop
Dear Cult Leaders,
Did you know that the name Jehovah was created by a 13th century Spanish monk? No? Good bye. I'm out.
Signed,
Me
PS Leave me and my family the fuc alone.
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THIS Is How Muslim Mother “Fixes” Rape Of 2-Year-Old Granddaughter By Grandfather
by Hecce insaw this dated 2/26/2017, seems to be from 12/2015.. .
even in a religious culture that advocates the murder of victims as honorable, fathers and brothers are typically the perpetrators of horrific violence against female family members whose only crime was to be the victim of another, the killing of a child by its mother stands out as particularly unnatural and depraved.such a heinous act occurred recently in sohag, egypt when a mother of a two-year-old child took the life of her child rather than protect it from violent sexual assault by its own grandfather.. a muslim mother identified only as “merfat” was awakened by screams in the middle of the night and found her father, faraj, in the act of raping her daughter.. .
rather than acting out of a natural, protective instinct, the 23-year-old mother chose to shield her father from scandal as taught by muslim theology and sharia law.. merfat told authorities that she took her daughter, little grace ahmed, from the grandfather, placed her in a tub and held her head under water until the child drown.. alik akhmim, chief detective of the police in sohag told egyptian reporters that “traces of blood” had been found in the little girl’s anus, evidencing the degree of force and injury the child endured at the hands of her mother’s father.. this kind of act is referred to as an “honor killing” thought to place the reputation of the family above that of any individual member, and which is used to punish the victim rather than hold the perpetrator accountable.. murdering rape victims is common in countries and communities that adhere to sharia law where the crime is rarely reported for fear of exposing the family to shame.. “honor killing” is no longer limited to predominantly muslim countries or the middle east.
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kpop
Ruby, yes, you are right. Steve Bannon even went so far as to stage this entire scene and pretend it was hidden camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0YUysixVd0
Are you are a JW or ex-JW?
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Cart Witnessing Today In Liverpool [See Pic]
by pale.emperor inremember the jw command only a few years ago "fully accomplish your ministry"?
looks like these young jw's didnt get the memo.. whats interesting is, just a few meters away were some street preachers handing out flyers and shouting about jesus.
i cant stand them either but at least you couldnt say they were skiving on the job.. bet they're still counting this as time as well.. .
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kpop
This is very common. I know because I drive past the carts on the way to my clients and see them sitting down or just looking so disengaged and low energy. I love it. Carts are the best thing to happen to the JW cult.
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Observations from an Ex-Elder Part 2 - Cart Work
by doubtfull1799 inup until i left recently i was participating in the cart work.
in the location where we used to set up near our local mall we never had one person stop and take literature or stop and chat - other than fellow brothers.
i thought maybe it was just a bad location or something.
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kpop
I'm not an elder but when I was still going out in service to show my face, I know that everybody loved the carts because as they said, "all you have to do is stand there and don't need to say anything." Yeah, because nobody gives a crap about the crap we have to offer. It was very funny to stand there with brothers and sisters who are literally praying for nobody to come over and talk to them.
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I Saw 2 JWs Doing Nothing With Their Cart Today
by minimus inmy girlfriend and i were walking along a seaside boulevard and lo and behold!
2 jws were standing by the pathway.
they made eye contact and said hello.
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kpop
When they first started the cart witnessing, I thought it was the best idea yet! Because nobody goes there besides the few homeless or crazy people who need someone to talk to about anything.