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  Do you think I should get something for my wife for her birthday?

  by schnell in

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  my wife is still nominally in, but only because it "makes me (her) happy".

  there is nothing academic about her beliefs and when i try, she interprets me as negative.. but then she cusses like a sailor and watches certain movies with me.

  her birthday is coming up and it's also right around valentine's day.

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  I agree with wrapping it up really pretty, she'll love it!
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  What have been some of the funniest local needs talks that you have heard?

  by DaPriest in

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  i remember once in berlin south germany there was a local needs part for the men only, and how they should use the toilet.

  in all seriousness for ten minutes a retarded nigerian was going on about how men need to sit down when using the toilet.

  no mention of anything else.. it transpired that some little kraut boy from an "interested" family would aim for the side of the toilet and leave a great big puddle for others to clean up.

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  Dogs. The CO actually lectured about how the Bible had " nothing good to say about dogs." He went on to point out several scriptures to back up his personal dislike for them. How ridiculous.

  Shoes. While staying with a family during one of his visits (free, nice meals included) he counted an excessive number of shoes in the sister's closet.
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  Why so few XJWs online?

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  not too long ago, i posted a topic where i pointed out that there are about 1 million xjws alive right now.

  that number only represented the disfellowshipped ones... didn't account for those who had become publishers and left or anyone else who got hurt by that group by proxy.

  so, why are there so few of them online?

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  I think as was mentioned, some of those who were DF are still in pain regardless of how long ago it was. Posting about those feelings means reliving them. One of my close family members is that way.

  I know many who have left that were never baptized. They were raised in the "truth" or around it and that in itself has seriously damaged them. They don't want to talk or think about it. This must apply even more so those who were officially disfellowshipped.

  Another reason, as was also brought up are those who have been DF, yet are going back. I personally know some of them don't have any disagreement with the WT organization. Unfortunately, they feel they have sinned and accept the judicial committees decision. They sit meekly in the back row until they are reinstated. These wouldn't be participating or even looking at ex-jw sites online, as they don't consider themselves as such. Maybe someday, they will see the TTATT and find support groups such as this. At that point it could be a lifesaver for them as it has been for me. I'm one who really needs to express my feelings, have them validated by others (like on this forum) who have gone through this and come out to live happier lives.
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  Internally rolling my eyes.. Get this

  by raven in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a bit of an update, last weekend was my great grandmothers funeral, now, she was never a jw, and never was going to be, no matter how hard my mother, and grandmother tried to preach to her, she was the type of person that would kindly accept a wt or a book, but she wouldn't bother reading them.. anyways, she was a great wonderful and inspiring woman, the funeral was extremely sad, she had been a school teacher for over 35 years and a member of various clubs, so there were a lot of folks besides family that attended.. well, anyways i was there and so was my jw mother, stepfather, and grandmother, we were cordial, didn't talk about anything jw related because, it was great grandmothers funeral, not really a time to discuss how i am an evil sinner, or how i've escaped the org by avoiding df'ing, right?

  wrong, as i'm sitting waiting for the service to begin, a lady shows up, now- i have known this woman for a long time, apparently she baby sat me as a small child, (like i remember?

  ) so she isn't someone i was ever close with, but knew of her or when she was around would say hi to and make small talk.. to give you a tid-bit on her personality though, she is one of those crazy jw's.. she claims to have been possessed by a demon, very very wacky on the prophesies, or gb talks, etc.

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  Hi Raven,

  I'm sorry you've lost your great grandmother, it sounds like you have many good things to remember about her.

  Take care.
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  Any updates on Vaping?

  by longgone in

  1. watchtower
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  i was wondering if the gb has forbidden vaping yet, so i did a search.

  there was a thread from a year ago, the comments covered all the bases i suspected the wt would come up with.

  i'm out, so it doesn't really matter to me.

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  Yes you're right, I didn't say nicotine free juice, and that's what I meant.

  Sorry I was unclear. 😔 I know that they ban nicotine, but the other juice they could only say "worldly" or some extension of that, I guess.
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  Any updates on Vaping?

  by longgone in

  1. watchtower
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  i was wondering if the gb has forbidden vaping yet, so i did a search.

  there was a thread from a year ago, the comments covered all the bases i suspected the wt would come up with.

  i'm out, so it doesn't really matter to me.

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  I was wondering if the GB has forbidden vaping yet, so I did a search. There was a thread from a year ago, the comments covered all the bases I suspected the WT would come up with. 😑

  I'm out, so it doesn't really matter to me. My youngest adult daughter and her friends all vape. It's something of a hobby for them, the events, the online groups, etc. If I take an interest in it, and (maybe) vape occasionally myself it could be a shared interest.

  If the WT leaders have decided on making it a formal disfellowshipping position, then it's just another inconsistency in their self-serving rules. It's none of their business in the first place.
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  How to believe you deserve to relax

  by rebel8 in

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  i was brainwashed to believe you generally shouldn't relax much.. demons can enter you if you meditate or even relax your brain too much for one second.

  always be on guard.. scriptures criticizing laziness were repeated often.

  https://www.openbible.info/topics/laziness "be kind to yourself" and all that.. you need to strenuously exert yourself for jehoopla and you're worthless if you don't.. most forms of fun were extinguished.

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  So glad you brought this up rebel8. I can fully relate. I've struggled with this as a born in and still am as I'm fading. (Eight months now, yay!) Meditation has helped me immensely, epecially at first. What you said schnell mirrors my own experience.

  The GB tries to make just about everything have some tie to the demons! I'm surprised we were allowed to brush our teeth. Surely they could have fabricated a connection somehow. 🙌
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  What is freedom to you?

  by What is Truth? in

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  we always say free choice, the freedom to choose well the ability to choose is freedom and we claim freedom ourselves to the attention that we become aware of our decisions.

  well today this year i choose to never step foot in a kh again unless someone died or i have an axe and some gasoline!

  who's got a lighter for me?.

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  I try to remember that the vast majority of those in attendance have no clue what is going on, and that they are being led by the WTS mind control tactics. I certainly was. 😔

  I completely understand your frustration though.
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  Here's a morbid thought...

  by Rainbow_Troll in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it probably will never happen but... imagine the gb recieved some new light that told them the great tribulation was imminent.

  the world is going to hell and all jws can expect until armageddon is terrible persecution the likes of which no christian has ever experienced in two thousand years.

  but jehovah has a solution: put yourself and your family 'to sleep' and after armageddon's over, jehovah will 'wake his people up' at the resurrection.

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  That is a morbid thought, and still scares me to think about. Here's why. It's a strange coincidence but it's quite similar to something that went through my mind earlier this year, several times actually. It was shortly before my fade, my heart is pounding a little now, but I have to say it. I'm pretty embarrassed, but it will help me, and perhaps someone unfamiliar with the organization will read this entire thread and realize how dangerous the mind control the WTS employs could potentially be. I DON'T think they would actually do such a thing, but this is how I was thinking. Like I said, I had been "waking up" as the saying goes for several months. One afternoon following the Sunday meeting I must have subconsciously realized something really wrong was going on at the meetings. I pictured the whole thing just the way it was described in the opening post, I imagined they said those very things, the speaker saying new light, etc. Then brothers handing out pills going row by row like they do at the Memorial. My next thought was, "Would I take them if this actually happened?" I pushed it out of my mind, but it came back as the weeks went by. I can tell you it was terrifying to think about something that weird. I had been telling my non-jw adult daughter for several months previously how wrong so many different things seemed. One day after venting again about it, she looked at me, paused then said "Mom, it's a cult." Just like that. I started shaking my head and saying quietly, "no, no, they say.." I was about to repeat verbatim what the Reasoning book had said under that section on how to reply at the door when a householder brings up a question. I realized at that moment a cult is of course going to say it isn't a cult! I felt so humiliated inwardly, and then she said pedophilia was going on, and that was it for me. I went to the library, borrowed some books about cults, then dared to look on the internet for info about JWs. Fortunately, I found JWFACTS right away. I then went to a few more meetings just for appearances, etc. (I previously posted a couple months ago on details, but that's irrelevant here.) After I was out completely, I told my daughter about my imaginary story and said that I really wonder if I would have taken the pills or not. She said, "You would have Mom, you would have." So there it is, I'm really embarrassed, I thought about posting about this a couple months ago, but I decided it was such a far fetched stupid thing for me to think in the first place. I guess maybe it wasn't so far fetched after all. I hope no one here will make fun of me for saying what happened, but I guess I would deserve it. Nevertheless, I think there is strong mind control going on by the leaders, and it's criminal how many lives they have/are ruining.
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  I am Deaf and blind is Jehovah going to destroy me because I can't hear or see a JW broadcast or read a watchtower or go to the kingdumb hall???

  by UNCONDITIONAL LOVE in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  an easy way to stump the delusional jws at your door is come to the door with sunglasses on holding a sign with the words in the above title, and not say a word.

  the reaction will be priceless.... hopefully it will wake up those that still have some use of their thinking abilities..

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  Rebel8, That's hilarious!

  It's exactly the kind of "experience" they use to make everyone else feel guilty for not doing more, and more, ad infinitum. 😕