This is so sad, my heart hurts for those who innocently believe the Governing Body cares about them. 😢
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Russian BOE letters of instruction - meetings and $$$ matter$
by OrphanCrow inthese letters can be found in the original russian on jwforum.eu.. i will provide links but also copy and paste the english translation that was provided for each one.. this first letter was dated may 21, 2017 and concerns instructions on how to handle the donation$.
(*bolding is mine).
we should not make the same boxes for all groups.
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Baby update and quick hello.
by Darkknight757 ini wanted to take a moment to give a quick baby update.
my last post mentioned that we lost twin b at 17 weeks but twin a is doing well so far.
we are 25 weeks tomorrow and a week past the point of viability so we are starting to get really exited for this new adventure in our lives.
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longgone
Really happy for both of you! ✨
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William Malenfant's appalling hate speech - latest morning worship video
by doubtfull1799 inso he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection").
and uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution).
then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!.
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longgone
@Doubtful, I like your idea to directly speak with Malenfant, though I find it unlikely they will put you through. Certainly worth a try.
Shortly before faded, I called their headquarters to let them know how irresponsible one of their videos was. It was the one where they advised a depressed sister who said she had even considered suicide to remind herself that she is was integrity keeper and to repeat it over and over to herself. Wow. And of course, the usual pray to Jah about it. No mention of professional help.There was a thread some time ago about this.
I don't recall if I spoke with just the brother who answered the call originally or if I was transferred. Nonetheless, I got a ridiculous rebuttal to my thoughts, yet I politely continued to explain the danger of the way they handled something so serious. Eventually, he agreed my point was valid, whether he passed it on or not I don't know.
Hopefully, at the very least he may personally evaluate the contents of the meetings. Maybe they keep a record of incoming calls it would seem logical. But at least in my heart I did what I could, maybe you will feel the same.
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Why Do People Join Cults? A TED Talk -- JW's to a T
by daringhart13 inhttps://youtu.be/kb-djacxaxa.
great video for showing how to define a cult.
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Householder invited to KH luncheon
by compound complex ingreetings, friends:.
the following is one of those now-i've-heard-everything field experiences.. this morning i went to a client's home to collect on work done.
while we were talking, the phone rang, she picked up, and told me she didn't recognize the caller id.
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longgone
I've never heard of anything like that either. It's just one strange thing with them or another. 😕
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Whats in it for them?
by Moster ini have been out for nearly 40 years now - baptized at 14 (although not to the org), but faded away.
but i am wondering about this:.
aside from the obvious power they wield, what's is in it for the gb?
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longgone
I have an honest question to ask about this.
If the GB really believe they are teaching their followers the "truth" and are God's channel to do so, why do they need to use mind control methods? Can that possibly be coincidental?
I don't personally think so, but then again all my beliefs were wrong for 57 years. So, I just keep an open mind to the possibility that they are completely deluded.
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Family dynamics and cult influence
by longgone inthe following incident is nothing unusual to any jw, but i wanted to add on to the list of reasons to never join, and sympathize with those stuck in it, and again a reminder that you can never get away from the mayhem when you have family still in.
in a recent conversation with my jw sister who i love very much, i was reminded how complex and abnormal relationships can become within a jehovah's witness family.families relationships can be difficult with any religion or none, but once we throw in the various labels and restrictions within the jw family it becomes really cultish.
no one outside it could begin to understand.
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longgone
You're right jp, thanks for the reminder. 😊
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Family dynamics and cult influence
by longgone inthe following incident is nothing unusual to any jw, but i wanted to add on to the list of reasons to never join, and sympathize with those stuck in it, and again a reminder that you can never get away from the mayhem when you have family still in.
in a recent conversation with my jw sister who i love very much, i was reminded how complex and abnormal relationships can become within a jehovah's witness family.families relationships can be difficult with any religion or none, but once we throw in the various labels and restrictions within the jw family it becomes really cultish.
no one outside it could begin to understand.
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longgone
The following incident is nothing unusual to any JW, but I wanted to add on to the list of reasons to never join, and sympathize with those stuck in it, and again a reminder that you can never get away from the mayhem when you have family still in. In a recent conversation with my JW sister who I love very much, I was reminded how complex and abnormal relationships can become within a Jehovah's Witness family.Families relationships can be difficult with any religion or none, but once we throw in the various labels and restrictions within the JW family it becomes really cultish. No one outside it could begin to understand. In the following case it's within an extended born- in family group. I'll try to keep this short. There are those active, or inactive, or maybe a Witness who married an "unbeliever." You are treated differently depending on which of the above. Let's add those currently df'd and those who were at one time, but have been reinstated. Is the person baptized, or never "made the truth they own." Living a double life? Does this or that one special privileges, or have they "stepped down?" It goes further, are they spiritually weak, or never baptized, if they were never baptized they might get limited association regardless of their behavior. Yet at least they can included in family activities, but of course if you were baptized at ten years old and were disfellowshipped at sixteen, there will be no invitation. But the children are invited if they attend meetings. It gets plain ridiculous and this is just the tip of the iceberg. Here's a small example from the conversation I mentioned at the outset.My youngest daughter who was never baptized, and who hasn't gone to meetings for years, and does multiple things a Witness would be kicked out for is having a baby. Simple right? No. My other daughter, who was disfellowshipped, then reinstated, yet never attended one meeting after that, had her baby *while disfellowshipped.*So now, my sister says she feels bad that she can buy an (expensive) gift for the never baptized one, but didn't get anything for the other because she was disfellowshipped at the time. Huh? Yet, not long after the birth of my grandchild she sent a long letter to the never-a-Witness husband with advice on how to raise him (her great nephew, my grandson, in case your getting lost, and even still reading, lol ) then also added that hopefully the df'd niece would return to the organization. I'm speechless. My daughter and I decided that though doubtless, well intentioned she counted the time for her pioneer report! Well, that particular part of the conversation probably took ten minutes, then it moved on to her strained relationship with our two never baptized sisters, and the maybe gay relative. All of the different JW status above we're also included.Exhausting to read, and it was so hard to get through. I did learn one important thing, that unfortunately I will be sticking with the occasional text and email. That was actually our first conversation in months as I've been keeping under the radar for the past year. I'm only getting away with unofficial shunning because I live so far away. 😕As I said it's just not normal, and anyone even considering becoming involved with Jehovah's Witness, for the sake of yourself and your family, please erase that idea from your mind while you can still think for yourself. 😮 The End. 😮 -
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“Winning the Battle for Your Mind”
by SAHS in“winning the battle for your mind.” that is the title of an article in the latest watchtower magazine, of july 2017, pages 27-30. wow, how ironic!
here is the direct link:.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2017488.
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longgone
One more vote here, they know exactly what they're doing. Despicable frauds.😣
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Told My Parents Yesterday That I Don't Want to Be a JW
by Saethydd ini wasn't entirely sure what to expect when i made the decision to tell my parents how i really feel, but i was prepared for the worst, fortunately, it didn't come to that.
after i told them i didn't want to go to the meetings anymore it led to a long talk with them.
they made a number of irksome and woefully uninformed statements but at least they were not aggressive and have said that they won't force me to move out over this, though, i can tell they are hoping they can convince me to "accept the truth," as long as i still live with them.
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longgone
Yes! 🌟 So proud of you! You were able to have a reasonable conversation with your parents. Seems you were respectful and made some valid points since things worked out in your favor for the time being at least. Enjoy your new freedom to begin the life of your dreams! 🌟