Which brings us to November 2019 , and the Warwick lake video...Do you know that L.E. Deleted that video fom his Youtube ? You can still watch it if you Google it why ? He still have all the others video on TTATT but not that one ?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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This is more videos he did on the TTATT projects...
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Dec 5 2017 he upload this video below . His talking with M.Ortiz, Interesting he mention that when he went in L.A they did a "zizzle reel" ? aimes to secure funding from investors and that kind of things ,(quote from him) he show the zIzzle clip . later they talk more on funding. fun fact they started the project with no funding ? then M.Ortiz did some application to have a documentary film grant ? Do any of you Know if they got any grant $ ? The footage they started was fund by EX-JW .M.Ortiz also said he did not wanted to crowdfunding $ for the film from the EX-JW community ! NO Begging ? No Patreon ,No Indiegogo ?
Notice the number of views that video got...you thing he donate that to the film project ? STOP Laughing! unLess you are cursing then Be My Guess...
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Part deux, the Anecdote of Xavier Ortiz conversation.
So while in London , M. Ortiz did not tell his JW family why he was there ,and they didn't know he was going to make a film against JW either . Until "Somebody" posted on Facebook this photos below ,and like you say in english The shit it the fan , his relative got wind of it , they were all mad at X.O. him and his wife got angry emails because of that photo ...Don't want to point any fingers here of who did that...
Why Is Mark O'Donnell there ?
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Sorry to mention that again , but that lake photo , got me very intrique with the hole TTATT film. So I decided to do some digging, I went on his Youtube channels , check all the videos he mention that project, so I will be connecting the dots with those videos. this is just .my opinion, a what if think might have happened ?. Because english is not my first language ,it will be easier for me to make a couple of short post of this ,hope nobody mind, and it will allow me to post some photos ,you all know how I love to post those..Also i will give the numbers of views each videos got ,just to point out how much money HE made Possibly ? with those videos ,money that I really doubt he gave back toward the film project.My opinion
It all started with this video number 1 . It was posted May 14 2017,( but was film in April ). Long storie shorth M.ortiz explain HE was the one that first thought of making that film ,he ask L.E. to be part of it, They started this project in London ? by going to the U.K bethel , funny anecdote about that next post
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I would physically fight anyone who tried to keep a picture of me like that.
How about like this
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Can you imagine...
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I just thought of something ,when i saw the photo of him and Mark O'Donnell .That photo was by the lake at warwick N.Y, and it was supposed to be in the film The truth About The Truth .Not anymore since M.Ortiz kick him out of that project in February 2022.All that ,for nothing ! Between you and me how many thought it was kind of stupid ? 2 grown men , on a kayak with a stupid sign ? Also in November ? that's the month they choose to do this ? Someone said they were there, visiting bethel when they did that , and the bethelites just block the windows ? and visitors were not allow to go outside .So hardly no one saw this... which is to bad , JW have no sense of humour. They should have made everybody go outside and tell them to just Laugh at them, That's what I do everytime i look at this ... Can you imagine if they had both felt out in the lake ? Then what ?
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