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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Oh i forgot about this video March 15 2019 .DUH!,in this Begging video ,Xavier Ortiz and L.E. say they need $ to go to Syndney Austarlia and Montreal Canada to finish the film ? they ask for Donation to the East Los Angeles society of Film & Arts organisation OOPS ! so they did had some financial help after all...Sowwy .

  And I guess it work cause in June 2019 L.E. and his family went to Australia (by the way now we know that it was D'Souza couple who paid for Lloyd trip and is family ) he made a few I think 3 ?video about that : Live from Syndey Event 2019.,A conversation with Ben, TTATT down Under a tribute to our Australian trip ? So the trip was suppose to be for the TTATT doc. and L.E. manage to Make money out of it by doing Youtube videos on that ? Plus all the perks the whale watching boat trip , the visit to the zoo for him and his wife and kids ect...

  So I guess Montreal is out of the project now... They replace it with Houston...And then look what happened... The film , Documentary will it ever be release ? On there Facebook page ,the last post was the letter that M ortiz release saying they ask L.E. to resign from the project. Can you imagine the trouble Maybe X.O. could get now with the L.A. film society ? He can't release that film now .How will they do that ? Lloyd is on all the shot! Mostly him that does the interviews ect. Mister Narcissist made sure to have his big fat nose in all the shots! They would have to start all over again , NOT, and the worst thing is that the person that's responsable for the project to never see the time of day , manage to make a ton of $$$ on Youtube talking about it ! And he didn't get SUED for that neiter !

  
  

  
  
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  Finally , we all know what happened in 2020, so of course no filming there, 2021 there is no TTATT video update. Maybe he mention it on other video maybe on some JW Watch ? But I was able to find this though...The TTATT have a Facebook page . this is the link .https://www.facebook.com/ttattfilm/

  so This is very interesting this post is from Nov 19 2021, That's why M.Ortiz was in Houston ,I guess L.E. told him he was going to the Faithless forum what ever in texas and they could do more filming for the film ? Footage we will never see now unless M.ortiz release it. I wish someone would interview him one day , so he could tell the hole story on that...

  
  
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  Which brings us to November 2019 , and the Warwick lake video...Do you know that L.E. Deleted that video fom his Youtube ? You can still watch it if you Google it why ? He still have all the others video on TTATT but not that one ?

  
  
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  This is more videos he did on the TTATT projects...

  
  
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  Dec 5 2017 he upload this video below . His talking with M.Ortiz, Interesting he mention that when he went in L.A they did a "zizzle reel" ? aimes to secure funding from investors and that kind of things ,(quote from him) he show the zIzzle clip . later they talk more on funding. fun fact they started the project with no funding ? then M.Ortiz did some application to have a documentary film grant ? Do any of you Know if they got any grant $ ? The footage they started was fund by EX-JW .M.Ortiz also said he did not wanted to crowdfunding $ for the film from the EX-JW community ! NO Begging ? No Patreon ,No Indiegogo ?

  Notice the number of views that video got...you thing he donate that to the film project ? STOP Laughing! unLess you are cursing then Be My Guess...

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Part deux, the Anecdote of Xavier Ortiz conversation.

  So while in London , M. Ortiz did not tell his JW family why he was there ,and they didn't know he was going to make a film against JW either . Until "Somebody" posted on Facebook this photos below ,and like you say in english The shit it the fan , his relative got wind of it , they were all mad at X.O. him and his wife got angry emails because of that photo ...Don't want to point any fingers here of who did that...

  Why Is Mark O'Donnell there ?

  
  
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  Sorry to mention that again , but that lake photo , got me very intrique with the hole TTATT film. So I decided to do some digging, I went on his Youtube channels , check all the videos he mention that project, so I will be connecting the dots with those videos. this is just .my opinion, a what if think might have happened ?. Because english is not my first language ,it will be easier for me to make a couple of short post of this ,hope nobody mind, and it will allow me to post some photos ,you all know how I love to post those..Also i will give the numbers of views each videos got ,just to point out how much money HE made Possibly ? with those videos ,money that I really doubt he gave back toward the film project.My opinion

  It all started with this video number 1 . It was posted May 14 2017,( but was film in April ). Long storie shorth M.ortiz explain HE was the one that first thought of making that film ,he ask L.E. to be part of it, They started this project in London ? by going to the U.K bethel , funny anecdote about that next post

  
  
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  I would physically fight anyone who tried to keep a picture of me like that.

  How about like this

  
  

  
  
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  Can you imagine...

  
  
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  I just thought of something ,when i saw the photo of him and Mark O'Donnell .That photo was by the lake at warwick N.Y, and it was supposed to be in the film The truth About The Truth .Not anymore since M.Ortiz kick him out of that project in February 2022.All that ,for nothing ! Between you and me how many thought it was kind of stupid ? 2 grown men , on a kayak with a stupid sign ? Also in November ? that's the month they choose to do this ? Someone said they were there, visiting bethel when they did that , and the bethelites just block the windows ? and visitors were not allow to go outside .So hardly no one saw this... which is to bad , JW have no sense of humour. They should have made everybody go outside and tell them to just Laugh at them, That's what I do everytime i look at this ... Can you imagine if they had both felt out in the lake ? Then what ?