When you teach salvation though association and works, it really doesn't matter what you say after that.
Posts by Steel
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Feb. 2017 "Who is Leading God's People Today?"
by Saethydd ini know that i am not by any means the first person to take note of this article, but today i finally got around to reading it.
i quickly found the now infamous line "the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
" in the interest of fairness, however, i decided to finish the paragraph, which led me to finish the lesson.
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My Dad wants to study with me
by BlackWolf inso my parents continue to pester me about getting baptized.
the other day my dad told me that i was old enough to make a decision, and was wondering why i wasn't ready (assembly is in a few weeks) so i told him calmly that i have many doubts and if i were to get baptized it has to be 100 percent my idea.
he was a little annoyed by this, and now wants to study the "is there a creator that cares about you" book (which is complete bs) with me.
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Steel
Just tell him you feel the baptismal vows feel more like a legalistic document to extort you than and an actual dedication to god. Any decision will be make once i am legally an adult and not living in this house.
Just count the days till you are 18 and get on the first bus to North Dakota. There are lots of jobs there.
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I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer init really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
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Steel
Lets me give you the no nonsense readers digest version of what the wts really teaches.
The wts is a belief that jesus died for anointed christians only which are solely represented by the governing body of the wts. Essentially the thelogy is jesus died to give us the faithful slave.
The great news is though your works and obedience to these men and the organization they you can obtain your salvation. Jesus only came to give us the opportunity to become baptized jehovah witnesses.
I really wish you had some idea of the idol worship and false gossip you are dabbling in.
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I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer init really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
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Steel
Did you even read that? Explain to us what the Israel of god means?
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I am glad to have found the true religion
by A Believer init really is great.
i remember browsing this forum the day after i had joined it, and their was a knock on the door.
i thought it was one of my package from ups but instead it was two sisters.
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Steel
Explain to me what the old and new covenant are?
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If anybody tells you that the end is so close
by pepperheart inask them why the gb has spent millions of people hours buiding the new bethels in new york and london rather than them working door to door or on the trolleys.
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Steel
I actually had a jw ask me that. I just returned the question. " well the ranks of the annointed keep growing and the generation of the end keeps getting redefined, so what do you think."
They just walked away.
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Individual Duds absolutely cannot learn the "truth" on their own"???
by James Mixon inwhy is it that i understand the bible more clearly today then all my years in the organization (jw)???
?many religious people believe the average person cannot understand the bible..maybe the reasons (1) they may have tried to study the bible and found it difficult, so they gave up.
(2) maybe they believe truth is subjective;so whatever you believe,that is truth for you.
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Steel
Christianity is technically about becoming the new person, the death of the old man, the spirit of christ living within you.
Its not about knowing nutty and ever changing dogma all based on prophetic books of bible or who knows the most obscure and pointless old testament stories and it sure as hell about blind obedience to seven magical men.
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Which bible translation do you think is best and most acurate?
by NikL infor those that still care to read the bible of course.
those that don't, please keep the snarky comments to yourselves :-).
i am assuming nwt is not very popular?.
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Steel
Its wasn't till about 6 months ago i realized there was a physical manifestation of god in the old testament called the word of jehovah or lord.
Once i understand what new testament writers were referring to in the old testament, the idea the nwt should even be considered inspired scripture is ridiculous.
They claim all bibles have a trinitarian bias. Now its kind of like no shit sherlock.
As for translation, i really dont think it makes much difference just as long as its not the nwt.
There is a scholar named daniel b wallace who wrote the net bible. He is a really interesting speaker without a dogmatic axe to grind. I like using his software.
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The Governing Body are doubling down on dogma!
by DATA-DOG inin case you were wondering if the governing body we're going to become kinder and gentler, the answer is a big "no!!!
in the current study edition of the wt magazine, the sheeple are reminded of some very important key points.
1) god has an organization ( corporation ) that you must respect.. 2) only the gb/faithful slave can dispense spiritual food and only the gb/faithful slave can interpret the bible.. 3) individual dubs absolutely cannot learn "truth" on their own.. 4) god requires "unity of doctrine.
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Steel
Has it always been just flat out cult nonsense? Its like they aren't even trying anymore.
I swear every second so called study just about doctrines particular to the wts. Even when do a bible study they have to throw in verses that are controversy placed in nwt.
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Who is Gog/Magog?
by Cold Steel inezekiel spends two chapters (38-39) describing a war that either will never take place, or which has yet to take place.
according to the prophecy, the warlord gog, of magog, will 1) sweep down on israel, covering the land like a cloud.
this will happen in 2) the latter years when israel will 3) be a people “gathered out of many nations” and peoples.
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Steel
Jws use to believe everything was symbolic of satans attacking the wts and the annoited remnant in the end times.
They recently had new light that israel might actually mean israel so there is a huge push to convert all the jews in Israel to good little dubs.
The whole new theology borrows quite heavy from evangelical made in america Christianity where everything good or bad that happens to america is a product of our support of the jewish state.
Or the fact jw ends times chronology isnt happening. I just know those dipsticks in brooklynn are watching the 700 club looking for ideas.