hebrew 1 8-12 .
but about the son, he says: “god is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.
you loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness.
Wow
This is highly depressing.
A major part of my awakening process was seeing how the new testament was basically just quoting the old testament and seeing the context of the quotes.
It also exposes how dishonest the nwt is when you see the connections.
The point is Jesus is being quoted as jehovah in the old testament . I wasn't making a sweeping generalization about Christian sects or how anyone can make the bible says anything etc etc.
hebrew 1 8-12 .
but about the son, he says: “god is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.
you loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness.
Maybe if someone a few generations back would have read the fucking the bible or understood it, we wouldn't all be hanging out here wondering how to get our families back.
Real class act
hebrew 1 8-12 .
but about the son, he says: “god is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of uprightness.
you loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness.
Hebrew 1 8-12
But about the Son, he says: “God is your throne+ forever and ever, and the scepter of your Kingdom is the scepter of uprightness
You loved righteousness, and you hated lawlessness. That is why God, your God, anointed you+ with the oil of exultation more than your companions.”+ 10 And: “At the beginning, O Lord, you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the works of your hands. 11 They will perish, but you will remain; and just like a garment, they will all wear out, 12 and you will wrap them up just as a cloak, as a garment, and they will be changed. But you are the same, and your years will never come to an end.”+
Psalms 102 26-27
Long ago you laid the foundations of the earth, And the heavens are the work of your hands.+ 26 They will perish, but you will remain;Just like a garment they will all wear out. Just like clothing you will replace them, and they will pass away. 27 But you are the same, and your years will never end.+
All quotes taken from the NWT
The part I find odd is when you read the rest of the passage and see the cross reference back to psalms , which seems to the father speaking to Jehovah god. If you feel like reading Psalm 102, it is speaking about Jehovah God, LORD, Yaweh , whatever you want to call him.
Now the average JW has a real problem with the father speaking to the son as god speaking to god ( thus the need for the NWT ), yet they never seemed to read the rest of the chapter. Its just funny how the theology is based on isolation and obscuring of single verses.
Not saying I am joe Jesus or pushing any agenda. I am just saying it is funny when a person does a little research on the scriptures , its pretty easy to see the authors intent.
You can't see the forest because of all the trees.
Something I find ironic is every JW knows the story of the JWs during WW2 and the holocaust but very few know the story about the failed 1975 prediction and how many walked away shortly after. Also how in 1981 they made officially quitting the same as disfellowshipping and how it was connected to the 1975 screw up.
I think it is kind of rich that during WW2 all a JW to do to leave the camps was to sign a piece of paper. Now they have to blackmail them into staying.
anyone else think it's wrong to ask a women with small children to volunteer there time, ask if they like to come to a potential study etc etc?.
my wife just spent an entire day helping with a kingdom hall reno while i babysat.
i latter stepped out and saw half the elders having coffee because they had so many people show up, they were tripping over each other.. i also have no idea what tangible skill my wife offered or why it is important she needs to be there.. i just wish these men would man up and be men, instead of just wasting everyone's time on purpose.
When my wife gave birth and came home from the hospital, we had two elders show up and ask for her hours for the month. Unfreaking believable.
It's about boundaries and common sense. It's pisses me off. All it takes to move up in the Borg is to have too much time on your hands and no personal class.
anyone else think it's wrong to ask a women with small children to volunteer there time, ask if they like to come to a potential study etc etc?.
my wife just spent an entire day helping with a kingdom hall reno while i babysat.
i latter stepped out and saw half the elders having coffee because they had so many people show up, they were tripping over each other.. i also have no idea what tangible skill my wife offered or why it is important she needs to be there.. i just wish these men would man up and be men, instead of just wasting everyone's time on purpose.
Yeah
I forgot. It's called being a parent now, not babysitting.
Still the point is childless weirdos placing time constraints on young families.
It's pretty classless.
anyone else think it's wrong to ask a women with small children to volunteer there time, ask if they like to come to a potential study etc etc?.
my wife just spent an entire day helping with a kingdom hall reno while i babysat.
i latter stepped out and saw half the elders having coffee because they had so many people show up, they were tripping over each other.. i also have no idea what tangible skill my wife offered or why it is important she needs to be there.. i just wish these men would man up and be men, instead of just wasting everyone's time on purpose.
Anyone else think it's wrong to ask a women with small children to volunteer there time, ask if they like to come to a potential study etc etc?
My wife just spent an entire day helping with a kingdom hall reno while I babysat. I latter stepped out and saw half the elders having coffee because they had so many people show up, they were tripping over each other.
I also have no idea what tangible skill my wife offered or why it is important she needs to be there.
I just wish these men would man up and be men, instead of just wasting everyone's time on purpose.
so i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.
i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.
jw version of movie stars?
About 10 years ago we had this women in our hall commit suicide. She came from a super Uber family.
She was 45 years old. I think officially her fertility ended and she was in grief. Spent an entire lifetime handling out magazine instead of finding a mate and having children. It's all she really wanted.
It all starts with crap like that video.
so i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.
i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.
jw version of movie stars?
I got married at 35 and became a first time father at the age of 40. Yeah it takes a few years and a lot of work to get pregnant after a certain age.
My parents were married at 20 and had me at 21.
I look at the challenges I have and how old I will be when my son let's say finishes high school and wish I would have tried sooner.
I see videos like this and see lives wasted. You are suppose to date in your teens and get married and have babies in your early 20s. It's the way nature intended.
steve2: is there some way this can be presented so that it is crystal clear what was actually in the demonstrations and what was added?
i guess some will think it should be obvious - but this is where misunderstandings arise because we end up wrongly attributing something to jw organization that was never said.. circuit assembly theme: maintain love for jehovah!.
note to speaker: warmly encourage young ones to prove their friendship with jehovah by observing his commandments and defending his standards.
Maybe they should print " live Lesbian demonstration " on the next awake magazine and see how strange faces show up at the assembly.
Boy would they be in for a let down.
