Posts by Steel

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Do you know MORE about the bible NOW?

by stuckinarut2 in

how many of us would confidently say that we know more about the bible now that we have ceased being jws?.

i know that i was proud to say that i was a "serious bible student" when a jw.

we boasted about how much we learned each week, and how we shared bible truths with the community.. but it's only after leaving, and really delving into a broad range of research, that i realise how little i actually knew!.

Steel

Once i realized terms like son of man and word of the lord were actually rooted in the old testament, it became pretty obvious the writers of the new testament thought of Jesus as some kind of manifestion of Yahweh of the old testament. It would be like watching Star Wars and not realizing Darth Vader was the father of Luke Skywalker.

Not saying i can put a pretty little bow around it but at least I can admit it all doesn't make sense or I can admit I don't it all.

The idea of god The father revealing himself though the son makes more sense than god torturing his favorite angel to death.

I am still highly interested in Christian theology for some strange reason.

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Why Do People Hate Jews???

by minimus in

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i have never understood anti-semitism .why sooo much hatred?.

Steel

People of the semetic gene pool tend to have higher IQs than the average person and tend to be more successful in the fields of business and medicine.

This higher success rate leads to the illusion that there is a grand Jewish conspiracy that everything is slanted for the jew.

You can't talk about race and intelligence levels though. It's a very taboo subject.

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I Wouldn’t Be Surprised If The USA Had Another Civil War!

by minimus in

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i have never seen this country so divided.

something is going to give.

they is such a lack of recognition for the law.

Steel

I just watched a documentary on iPhone production in China and it's insane.

First off 50000 people work at these factories. They build entire cities around them. Any Building over one story is surrounded by nets to try and stop potential suicides. They work 72 hours a week for 450 dollars a month.

Then on top of it the average Chinese person only works there for about four months because it sucks so bad.

The idea these jobs could move back to North America is just stupid. a phone would end up costing 10000 dollars.

My point being Trump and interest rates. This is the danger in having a leader who has never worked a day in his life nor has a basic understanding of economics. If everything was made in America, no one could afford to buy it. He isn't going to re create the 60s , he is going to re create the early 80s.

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My Mom's Challenge to Me

by lriddle80 in

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so my jw mom messages me on facebook last night and says she wants me, for a month, to read the bible, but first pray using the name jehovah and in jesus name and then read it with an open mind.

she is so ridiculous!

first of all, i do pray but i usually just say father and i always pray in jesus name and i find it ironic that she is saying i should have an open mind when hers is closed.

Steel

Ask her two questions.

What book in the New Testament is the summary of Christian dogma ?

Romans

Could you give me a brief summary of it?

You will never talk about the bible again with her again. Display any knowledge and they disappear like cock roaches.

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I Wouldn’t Be Surprised If The USA Had Another Civil War!

by minimus in

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friends

i have never seen this country so divided.

something is going to give.

they is such a lack of recognition for the law.

Steel

I think as interest increase more people will turn to the democrats. Starting trade wars with the economy operating at nearly full employment is idiotic.

Ironically the democrats and republicans have switched places and no one really noticed.

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How many here think Trump's news conference this evening was absolutely brilliant

by ShirleyW in

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i'm being serious, i would like to hear from folks here that support him describe to me how that news conference was absolute brilliance, he answered all the questions, he knows what he is talking about.

just want to compare note with those who aren't his supporters (and have common sense) as you know this forum is here to hear both sides, so, have at it .

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Steel

He literally reminds me of the head bully elder or a CO. Every cong has one. The narcissism is just off the charts.

Its seems rather odd ex dubs are so in love with him. I am just having flashbacks of things I would rather forget.

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How many here think Trump's news conference this evening was absolutely brilliant

by ShirleyW in

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i'm being serious, i would like to hear from folks here that support him describe to me how that news conference was absolute brilliance, he answered all the questions, he knows what he is talking about.

just want to compare note with those who aren't his supporters (and have common sense) as you know this forum is here to hear both sides, so, have at it .

.

Steel

As a Canadian I can tell you the United States has the same anti dumping tariffs protecting there agricultural sector as we do, but you only hear about our milk tariffs. He doesn't tell you US food exports to Canada have gone from 2 billion to 20 billion since 1994.

Trump tells people the US run a massive trade deficit with Canada but he doesn't tell you about the 3.5 million barrels of oil imported each day. on a straight manufactured good to manufactured good, the US has a massive trade surplus with Canada.

He doesn't tell you Canada has lost about as many jobs to the US , as the US to Mexico.

Lies and half truths.

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Bill Cosby Gets Sentence Of 3 to 10 Years!

by minimus in

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wow!

i thought he might get less than 2 years incarceration..

Steel

The judge said at the sentencing " The proof was in the pudding " .

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DECEMBER 2018 WATCHTOWER STUDY ARTICLE...Many loyal Christians have remained with an unbelieving mate under very trying circumstances.

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

december 2018 study article :.

honor “what god has yoked together”.

17 admittedly, there have been instances where an “unbelieving husband” seems to prove that he is not “agreeable to staying with her.” he might be extremely physically abusive, even to the point that she feels that her health or life is in danger.

Steel

I have been married to a JW for 10 years now. Never once I have I ever seen her read the bible. Never has she given any witness of her faith. Never has she started a theological conservation with me. Heck, I am sure she doesn't even read the magazines anymore.

I try to explain basic Christian concepts to her. Saved by grace, why we have a new testament, what the new covenant is, the deity of Christ etc etc. She has no interest at all. She doesn't try and defend her position. She just doesn't give a shit.

spiritual endangerment ha ha . I think reading the bible might be "spiritual endangerment".

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Revelation 14:4

by Sergey Antonov in

it turns out that on the basis of the book of revelation 14:4 the anointed ones have to be virgins?

how does the governing body explain this?.

Steel

The book of revelation has a pattern of John hearing something and seeing something different . It follows the theme of the old testament to new testament. Example he would hear the mighty lion of Judea and then see the bloody lamb.

The calling of the 144 is a reference to the building of an army in the book of Numbers. The he saw a great crowd no man could number. The 144 is just a symbol for the body of Christ or all Christians.