Posts by APieceOfWorkNamedTate

i've been trying to learn more about how scientology works in regard to how they investigate, interrogate, and discipline their members, and how similar their methods are to jehovah's witnesses.

i am currently pimo, and while i have never faced a judicial committee, the elders have tried to investigate me.

i won't go into detail, but basically it was just a case of me not wanting to reach out like they wanted me to.

I've been trying to learn more about how Scientology works in regard to how they investigate, interrogate, and discipline their members, and how similar their methods are to Jehovah's Witnesses. I am currently PIMO, and while I have never faced a judicial committee, the elders have tried to investigate me. I won't go into detail, but basically it was just a case of me not wanting to reach out like they wanted me to. Most of the elders at the time had known me for a while, so they didn't really care. But you always have a couple of elders who take themselves way too seriously, and they were the ones I had to deal with. These are the type of elders who figure that since I'm not foaming at the mouth to become like them, then I must be engaged in secret sin.

So these two brothers drag me into the back room. At the time I was still PIMI, but very sick of the whole thing. I just didn't care anymore. Of course they arrange the seating in such a way as to seem more intimidating I guess. Even though there were only two elders, they still tried to make me feel boxed in. They asked me why I didn't seem willing and eager to reach out for more "privileges". I just explained that I was satisfied with what I was already doing, and that I didn't feel the need to take on any additional work. They seem to have a certain tactic. They'll start off trying to seem very warm and friendly, like they're your best friends in the whole world. Looking back on it, they were obviously trying to get me to let my guard down. Then they hit me with a question similar to this: "Do you have anything else that you'd like to share with us?"

That question surprised me, because in my mind, we were meeting for a specific issue. Once I explain myself regarding that specific issue, that should be the end of it. If there was something that I wanted them to know, I would have already volunteered that information. So I just told them no. When I said no, it was as if my answer wasn't good enough. They wanted me to admit to something so that they could turn it into a judicial matter. Even though I was PIMI, by then I had figured out that the elders don't have superpowers, and I knew that I didn't have to say a goddamn thing that I didn't want to. So after a few seconds of awkward silence in response to my lack of a confession, they ended the little investigation and we were back to being "friends" again.

I'm not sure how Scientology works exactly, but here's what I'm getting at. When the elders ask a question, they observe your body language very carefully. That's one of the reasons they sometimes box people in with the seating arrangement. They want to make you feel uncomfortable. In Scientology audits, they are depending on the e-meter to reveal how nervous you get when certain questions are asked. It's the same thing done in slightly different ways. Look at this quote from Cracked.com: "See, the Church of Scientology has its members pay for regular auditing sessions. These are a little like Catholic confession, only without all that confidentiality nonsense. This means the church has a big fat blackmail file on every one of its members. If you leave, you're declared a suppressive person. They'll take the worst bits from your file -- that time you got caught shoplifting, or that dark sexual fetish you admitted to having -- and serve that to your family along with a side of straight-up lies."

The thing that stood out to me about that quote is the fact that Watchtower also keeps a file on you. And they make sure that wherever you go, your dirty laundry follows in the form of the "letter of introduction".

Here are some of the crazy questions Scientology uses, courtesy of Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Scientology_security_checks

Scientology also does this to children. Look at some of the questions they ask: https://www.villagevoice.com/2012/06/30/what-katie-holmes-is-saving-suri-from-scientologys-interrogation-of-children/

Notice what Village Voice says about the questions: "It’s disturbing stuff, especially when you picture a child of Suri’s age holding the sensors of an e-meter, being interrogated by an adult determined to have her confess her transgressions."

I can only imagine the conversation that took place after I was dismissed:

Elder 1: Why the heck didn't that work? I thought for sure we had him that time! He didn't get nervous or anything!

Elder 2: I don't know. Maybe we could have done some things differently. Maybe next time we should ask more direct questions.

Elder 1: I know he's hiding something. There's a reason he isn't reaching out, and I plan on getting to the bottom of it.

Elder 2: Well one thing is for sure. Holy Spirit will reveal his sins in due time. We just have to be patient. Jehovah won't allow this congregation to be defiled. Did you hear the way he said "no" when I asked him if he had anything else to tell us? He said it like he has no respect for our authority. We'll have to make sure we keep an eye on him.

Elder 1: A Local Needs talk about this might be in order.

Elder 2: What would you talk about exactly?

Elder 1: Hiding secret sins. The information is much needed because there are a few other people that I'm suspicious of.

DOWN WITH THE SCOTCHTOWER BABBLE & CRAP SOCIETY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Holy Spirit - Present or Gone in the Congregations?

by BourneIdentity in

i was doing some reminiscing and remember the days back in the late 80s and early 90s where i truly could say the meetings were so encouraging and that i felt the holy spirit present and operating on all of us.

today when i attend, there is nothing of the sort.

is it because jehovah has withheld it?

APieceOfShitNamedTate

I think I might be turning into either an agnostic theist, or an agnostic atheist. As most of us here know, the Bible does not stand up to scientific scrutiny or common sense. It's very difficult to continue to believe in things like the holy spirit. In the words of Mikey from YouTube, "It don't work no more." God is either not all powerful, or he's not all good. That Adam and Eve story is so stupid when you think about it; all this suffering over what? A piece of fruit? Absolute nonsense! And if holy spirit is so powerful, then why did a JW get killed while out in field service? I won't get too specific on that one, I might out myself. I grew up being taught that the holy spirit and the angels protect us in the ministry. Obviously that's a lie. Even if the person that was killed wasn't a "faithful" JW, certainly someone out that day should have been faithful enough for their protection to transfer to the whole group by association.

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Hematogen—a Delicious Russian Candy Bar Made With Blood

by minimus in

jw
friends

i bet witnesses in russia stay away from chocolate candy bars.

you can get these treats in russia, new york and on amazon.

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APieceOfShitNamedTate

I guess this isn't considered strange in Russia. I'll pass. If we ever catch a GB member in a store stocking up on these, we'll be on to something.

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Tony Morris video footage of him buying a dozen bottles of scotch

by UnshackleTheChains in

i was howling watching cedars latest video of tm111 buying a dozen bottles of scotch ((maccallans scotch).

you can't write this stuff.

right, i'm now off to buy a bottle of maccallans 😂..

APieceOfShitNamedTate

Well clearly the GB has received new light that for this year's memorial, red wine is to be replaced with Macallan scotch, and maybe the unleavened bread will be replaced with cherry cheese danishes.

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Preparing the sheeple for finally abandoning the significance of 1914

by under the radar in

we all know the society would love to get rid of all the problems caused by clinging to 1914 and all they claimed it meant for the last 100+ years.. it looks like they are laying the groundwork for easing away from the whole concept of 1914. this would also let them do away with the ridiculous "overlapping generation" bullcrap.

what a diaper load that has been.... anyway, the following is from their super secret marching orders for april, 2019. draw your own conclusions.... "3.

“100 years of faithfulness”: the coordinator of the body of elders, or another elder, should be invited to read the following special announcement.

APieceOfShitNamedTate

At least the All Scripture reference is accurate. It would be great if this is true. I hope this isn't Baterade all over again. (Don't judge me.)

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Idiotic Comment

by FedUpJW in

i was just enjoying a you tube video clip of george carlin explaining euphemisms.

one of the ones he commented about is how people try to soften the fact someone is dead by saying, "they passed away.

" noo...they died!.

APieceOfShitNamedTate

I would probably say : the bastard or bitch is dead ,live with it and get on with your life.

LOL!!!

I heard Matthew McConaughey use the term "moved on", as in, "So-and-so moved on last night at 9:34."

I guess we come up with all these terms to soften the blow, but in my opinion it's best to just face reality.

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Idiotic Comment

by FedUpJW in

i was just enjoying a you tube video clip of george carlin explaining euphemisms.

one of the ones he commented about is how people try to soften the fact someone is dead by saying, "they passed away.

" noo...they died!.

APieceOfShitNamedTate

This reminds me of a conversation I had with a very young relative before I woke up. I was still seeing everything from a JW perspective, and my young relative was actually being raised in the real world, and was actually being equipped with the skills needed to deal with real life. I was telling him about one of my pets, and he asked me what had happened to it. My stupid JW indoctrinated brain somehow thought that saying it died was far too much for his little mind to handle, so I just replied, "He went away."

A little while later we were talking about a relative that had died long before he was born, so I was trying to describe her personality to him. Again, he asked me about what happened to her, and I said, "She's not with us anymore." Finally he looked up at me and said, "You mean she's dead?"

"Yeah. That's what I mean," I replied. There I was, a grown man, tip-toeing around the subject of death like the brainwashed idiot that I was, while a little boy was more in touch with reality than I had ever been. Right then and there I decided that I'd be honest about death, no matter the age of the person that I'm talking to.

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Let's Talk Horror Movies

by LoveUniHateExams in

horror is easily my favourite genre of movie so i just thought i'd start a thread on it.. horror can be done badly and there are plenty of crap horror movies, no doubt about that.

but horror can also be done very well, too - often on a low budget.. plus, there are quite a lot of subgenres - slasher, supernatural, monster movies, body horror, psychological horror, zombie, vampire, etc.. so, do you like horror?.

what's your favourite subgenre?.

APieceOfShitNamedTate

I really enjoyed Get Out. Anybody plan on seeing Us? Jordan Peele is the new horror guy. I heard that he's involved with the new Twilight Zone project.