Crying is part of being human , having compassion for creatures
I also don't get having no pain , pain is what teaches you what is dangerous
so I always thought this scripture referred to heaven
"and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain.
for the old world and its evils are gone forever.
" rev.
Crying is part of being human , having compassion for creatures
I also don't get having no pain , pain is what teaches you what is dangerous
so I always thought this scripture referred to heaven
i was once a person who believed in god destroying 7 billion people so a few people could live in paradise.. when the penny finally dropped and i realised what as a jehovah's witnesses i was really praying for , it made me feel sick.
what is attractive about a person that prays for this world to end .
i was ashamed to have been a witness deeply ashamed .
I am not being dramatic in the least bit, (dramatic is being pretend) plus I am no longer ashamed , I know now how brainwashed I had been
i was simply stating how I felt when the realisation dawned.
That as a family we had been praying for in effect the death of the majority of the world for nearly 35 years, waking up to the fact of how horrendous that would actually be.
It is appalling that in the 1970's. I looked around at all my classmates and everyone I met in the "world" and believed they would be gone if they did not only believe in God , but love him , whilst believing he was going to kill all those non believers , including family members.
That for me was shameful
if jw`s come knocking at your door, do you open it & engage in conversation, tell them to sod off, or just not answer the door?.
my husband`s has asked me not to answer the door to them if he isn't here?
he hate`s the fact that they make a point of calling when they know he will be at work.
My daughter said to some of them.
"Oh you are the people that think cuddling a panda is so brilliant that everyone else has to die so that you can"
i was once a person who believed in god destroying 7 billion people so a few people could live in paradise.. when the penny finally dropped and i realised what as a jehovah's witnesses i was really praying for , it made me feel sick.
what is attractive about a person that prays for this world to end .
i was ashamed to have been a witness deeply ashamed .
I was once a person who believed in God destroying 7 billion people so a few people could live in paradise.
when the penny finally dropped and I realised what as a Jehovah's Witnesses I was really praying for , it made me feel sick
what is attractive about a person that prays for this world to end
I was ashamed to have been a Witness Deeply ashamed
It wasn't my fault I was born into this vile self absorbed smug cult
it it has taken time but I am liberated and free so much so that I am don't identity myself as an ex JW but rather as a liberated free thinking genuine person that has no need " to put on the new personality" because mine is just fine thank you
How do you view yourself at the moment ?
i was browsing through stuff on jw.org recently and ran across some expressions that really grate on my nerves: loyal love, loving-care, and loving-kindness, as in: "please exercise loving-kindness toward your servant.
" who talks like that?
they must be relics of the fred franz era.
"Worldly"
" gods great day of judgment "
"wait on Jehovah "
" God's organisation'
" earthly hope'. "Heavenly hope"
'Kingdom melody '
a new youtube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9wmtskwfik.
I can't even click on it. Makes me feel physically sick
plus I don't want them to get extra views
a special message to her daughter, ann marie if you are watching this site.
your mother is eighty-eight now and her memory is going fast.
please call her, ann marie.
When I was in this forum many years ago I always followed what mouthy/grace wrote, and what she up to, she is a really wise kind funny lady. She always gave such a warm welcome to the newbies.
i can't see her daughter contacting her at this late stage, but I wish she would for her sake.
God bless Mouthy. x
i was a member of this community a long time ago and have lurked for years.
well, i am back and still thoroughly conflicted, with my heart/loyalties as divided as ever.
please welcome me back, hear me out, and make me feel as welcomed as before.. the wtbts has changed so very much in recent years that i feel trapped in a completely different religion altogether.
I found when I went and told my family. (Father an elder and my 4 brothers all elder deep in the organisation) that I no longer wanted to be a witness , they were surprised but not shocked as I had voiced doubts over the preceding few years.
One brother as I got into my car to leave came out and said I wish I was as brave as you.
it takes courage to think you might be shunned by them and all you have known but I have found by not wavering , being normal and slowly making a new life , they start to respect you.
I sent them all texts on their birthdays "just thinking of you today" They even reply sometimes now. So after all these years they now respect me and view me as their
equal and they no longer shun me.
No one says it's easy but it is possible in time.
It's being consistent and not being outlandish in behaviour but still a very decent human being, generous and well thought of in the community you live, that I found has won them all round.
Yes it has been lonely at times being on the outside of all their family get togethers but they did tell me when my parents were ill, and my mother would speak to me on the phone and before she died even came on holiday with me
i said to my mother. Mum I will never say anything to you that will pull the rug away from you and your faith. I could , but I love you and want you to be happy and I never did.
i truly believe it's by being loving and non confrontational that has won them round, in time maybe my siblings will leave JW too
welcome back
This site helped me beyond measure 14 years ago and now I feel I need to pay something back with the odd word of encouragement
experienced a series of odd coincidences today.
this morning i noticed a friend had "liked" a picture i had posted on facebook.
i hadn't spoken with him for a while so i texted him that we should get together to 'catch up' some time soon.
Yes an odd day, I think you handled it brilliantly too
some say everything happens for a reason
i belonged to this forum for about 5 years ; 14 years ago and made many good online friends here.. it became my new family for awhile and i am very grateful for all the help i received.. for the first time in 10 years i went into a kh for a funeral, bearing in mind it was at the hall where my husband had been the presiding overseer and regular pioneer for many many years.. they were very surprised that i remembered all their names and was confident and happy.. someone said so are you back in the truth, i said simply !
yes i have my truth, thanks.. the elder in question said " well time will tell ?
"and i said yes it has hasn't it, but we aren't in competition..
Thank you all for your comments
i also saw an old friend who taught me to garden at the Kingdom Hall when I was a teenager, I asked fondly after his fleshly brother , he said through tears don't talk to me about him he is disfellowshipped , My reply, whilst I held both his hands was. He is your brother you must love him, it's love that conquers and never fails, isn't it?
they are dumbfounded by simplicity and honesty
I don't want to sound immodest, but truthfully I felt stronger and wiser, more stable and rooted than any of them.
There here were over 400 people at my mothers funeral, they all loved her dearly for which I am grateful for she was a beautiful human being innately wise and loving, which to be fair was mentioned by the elder giving the talk.
it shocked a fair few when they asked am I going to return to the organisation , I said
"no it might surprise you to know neither my mother or my father wanted me to"
both served 'faithfully' for over 50 years",so maybe it just might make a few genuine ones there think.
it was in 1994, that I mentally left the JW's another 7 years to completely leave physically and another 7 to rebuild myself. I went to university and studied philosophy , it took time to make lovely friends, and get my children grounded and happy after the brain washing of their formative years.
Nowadays I don't even consider myself an ex witness which is another milestone.
going back to the Kingdom Hall and being mentally and emotionally strong shook them
I remained loving and respectful to everyone throughout the day and my beautiful now adult children did the same
i am proud of whom we have become ; my 5 siblings are still strong pioneer types but during these last few weeks they have turned to me and my children for comfort and support.
if you are in the process of leaving JW's be reassured it can be done and successfully but it takes time and effort and support from forums like this, and digging deep into your self and finding the new authentic personality that resides in you,
It really is the that innate truth that sets you free
thank you to Simon and his wife that set this forum up many years ago