Posts by Ireneus

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Is the Earth really that great?

by DATA-DOG in

i enjoy watching nature documentaries; david attenborough being my favorite host and narrator.

that being said, i’ve come to the conclusion that contrary to xianity’s teaching, the earth is not “perfectly placed/designed for life.” .

when you actually observe the world at large, without blinders, it’s a wonder that life even exists.

Finkelstein,

You are asking “What happens when lighting strikes a forest full of tress and they all burn to their destruction, and why disease-causing viruses?”

Whether it is good or hurt, they come from multiple sources such as one’s own action, God’s over-all design of everything, and nature…etc.

If everyone is caring for each other, you will have perfect system of things on earth resembling heaven, with perfect climate with no such things as harmful lightening ..etc

If everyone is self-serving, you will have just opposite type of system things on earth resembling hell.

If people are mixed, then you will have another system of things befitting such a mixture.

Connection between our thinking pattern and responses of nature are becoming more pronounced these days. We destroyed the perfection of nature with our greed; we designed vehicles and factories with their toxinating pipes on to the air we breathe and water we drink. Human body is a micro universe and we see our bodies reacting according to the quality of our thoughts. Similarly thoughts of all human beings will have corresponding effects on the environment outside because both human bodies and nature outside are made with same physical elements. You can deduct these thoughts from this article. (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/scientists-can-now-blame-individual-natural-disasters-on-climate-change/) In addition, climate change is now known to be increasing the cases of diabetes and other diseases.

Similar is the case with micro organisms causing diseases. We simply blame them. We are not bothered to find out why some doctors and nurses get affected by the viruses from the patients they treat and other doctors and nurses do not get affected by them. Viruses multiply in favorable environment. What makes favorable environment in some humans and unfavorable in other humans? It is obviously their habit. Why can’t such habits be made mandatory in every country like tax laws are mandatory which make provision to recover your any property in case of violation.

Micro organisms work to remove the wastes from the earth, and if wastes are found in human bodies they will find favorable atmosphere there to multiply themselves bringing the condition we call dis-ease.

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Is the Earth really that great?

by DATA-DOG in

i enjoy watching nature documentaries; david attenborough being my favorite host and narrator.

that being said, i’ve come to the conclusion that contrary to xianity’s teaching, the earth is not “perfectly placed/designed for life.” .

when you actually observe the world at large, without blinders, it’s a wonder that life even exists.

Ireneus

I disagree:

If you add both good and bad you are producing waste. Tree is symbol of production/reproduction, hence "tree of good and bad" would mean humanity (original Hebrew word is Adam) chose a path of wastefulness after leading a perfect life on a perfect earth for a sufficiently long period. Hence what we find is the wasted earth, not the original, perfect earth. Because what happens to your body is the manifestation of what is going on in your internal world--mind, and similarly, earth too would change after humans change their paths on to wastefulness.

For example, last year during my vacation time I purchased one German Shepherd when it was a baby, and I fed it for less than two months, and returned to my College. After one year again when I visited my family, when I got down from the taxi itself, this now-gown up dog was trying to break its chain to come towards me to show its love. My dad released the dog, it came running towards me, stood up with both the hands on my shoulders--with my nose touching its nose. What a deep expression of affection from a dog just because I cared for it one year back, when it was a baby!

If humanity had done the same with all the other animals, we would not have had carnivorous ones, all--humans and animals--would have lived as one family. Even carnivorous one, if it is removed from its community when it is a baby and allowed to grow with lambs, it will return to lamb's nature.

But humanity's purpose is changed! We started the sports called hunting the animals, began eating them. Our purpose is to accumulate exceedingly to create privation in others, and enjoy seeing others suffering. (https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2017/jan/16/worlds-eight-richest-people-have-same-wealth-as-poorest-50)

Following such mentality is what eating from "tree of good and bad" means.

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"A faithful and discreet slave"

by Sergey Antonov in

that is, the "faithful and prudent slave" admitted that he is not a channel between god and people, but a group of ordinary people who have themselves appointed themselves and interpret the bible by themselves ??

?so why did they then decide that in 1919 they were chosen by jesus christ.after all, jesus clearly said how to distinguish a false prophet (deuteronomy 18: 20-22).. who will help to find quotes from the watchtower, that the words "faithful and discreet slave" come not from him, but from god.and that everything he writes in publications is true and true.?.

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Ireneus

If they were "faithful and discreet" they would not have made such bold and extraordinary claims [which were later failed miserably by constant changing of teachings] to fit themselves into the fulfilment of another parable intended for the Pharisees: " When he noticed how the guests picked the places of honor at the table, he told them this parable: “When someone invites you to a wedding feast, do not take the place of honor, for a person more distinguished than you may have been invited. If so, the host who invited both of you will come and say to you, ‘Give this person your seat.’ Then, humiliated, you will have to take the least important place. But when you are invited, take the lowest place, so that when your host comes, he will say to you, ‘Friend, move up to a better place.’ Then you will be honored in the presence of all the other guests. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”--Luke 14:7-11

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jehovahs witnesses base ALL teachings on the bible - false part 1

by Kevin McFree in

https://youtu.be/cqpdb7c_wdk.

Ireneus

When an Elder or Ministerial Servant moves into Bethel (which is of course a sign further progress in the path of spirituality), he automatically ceases to be an Elder or Ministerial Servant. He may or may not be appointed again only when CO visits Bethel congregation. This has no scriptural precedence, it was their own invention.

Making an already appointed Elder into a high-profile Elder with another title Bethel Elder was another unscriptural practice they started.

But fortunately, they later discontinued such practices.

But the question is: Why should such things which only fans one's egotism arise in the first place only to be discarded after practising them for decades?

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Things which must shortly take place!

by PJ Delaney in

things that must shortly take place... the true understanding of the “generation” mentioned at matthew 24:34 may soon be revealed!.

please watch the one minute youtube video and read the explanation in the videos description.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3i81uocm4k.

Ireneus

The Fall Guy,
What you said is true. In the first century, Christians understood end of
all ages would happen in their generation: "These things happened to them
as examples and were written down as warnings for us, on whom the
culmination of the ages has come" (1 Cor 10:11) about which Jesus
described "such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now,
no, nor will occur again"

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Things which must shortly take place!

by PJ Delaney in

things that must shortly take place... the true understanding of the “generation” mentioned at matthew 24:34 may soon be revealed!.

please watch the one minute youtube video and read the explanation in the videos description.. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n3i81uocm4k.

Ireneus

Mat 24:34 might never have been uttered by Jesus. If he did, he would have said: "the generation that would see the fulfillment of all these things Will not pass away"

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Explain why you are happy if you believe there is no afterlife vs when you joined JW's

by Bad_Wolf in

one thing that has intrigued me are so many who have left, who are wholly convinced everything in existence is merely by chance now, also claim they wouldn't want to live forever, and perfectly fine if this is the only life.

now, i would understand that if you were raised into the religion.

i was raised into it.

Ireneus

My answer comes from seed-tree-seed mechanism, which shows life is eternal.

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Irrationality of in important teaching

by Ireneus in

jesus used illustration to make things clear.

hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

Ireneus

EverApostate,

That's very true. It means everyone can know what is truth and what is falsehood. My Professor had an excellent experience in Singapore. He hired a taxi from the Air Port to his hotel, and he paid $11 according to the meter. But the Taxi Driver returned $ 1 saying, on my way I could have taken another route which would have saved you $ 1. Why should you pay for my carelessness?. Professor said, that is ok, you take back this $ 1 as I am not aware of the distance. Taxi Driver said: "If I take this $ 1, I may be right, yet I would be ethically wrong."

Interestingly, this taxi driver has no religious training whatsoever, he was acting on his own, which means everyone knows what is right and wrong and even the subtle shades between them.

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Irrationality of in important teaching

by Ireneus in

jesus used illustration to make things clear.

hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

Ireneus

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Jeremiah is much more than you can misinterpret--he declared all sacrifices as human invention (7:22, 31). When everyone understood circumcision as removal of skin of male sexual organ, only Jeremiah understood it correctly, as removal of skin of heart, ego (4:4) which is done without the help of priests. And it is this ego, the brute, that was to be sacrificed which was later misunderstood as animal sacrifice in all religions.

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Irrationality of in important teaching

by Ireneus in

jesus used illustration to make things clear.

hence imagine yourself in a situation which reminds you of an important teaching:.

you are in a super market, and you are told: “someone has already paid for whatever you have purchased”[as churches teach through their ransom sacrifice].

Ireneus

Perry,

All those verses are weeds according to Prophet Jeremiah 7:22, 31; 8:8