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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

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  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

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  hothabanero

  Fact: the UK was part of the EU; ppl said the UK could not leave for 117 different reason, then they did.

  What someone has written on a piece of paper SHOULD be secondary to the will of the People, except globalists don't think so...
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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  hothabanero

  @sir82: it was contested, but Franco changed their status.

  what can be done can be undone. anyway ppl have had a vote and you can either respect their democratic wish or the wish of various globalists etc.
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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  hothabanero

  Neither does Catalonia, assuming that they have no grounds, and they can do whatever they want same as India and the 13 colonies -but the ground belongs to Spain - period.

  So the US ground still "belongs" to GB and the Indian ground still "belongs to England?

  That makes no damn sense. once you succeed you become a new country and the ground is not owned by the old one.
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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  hothabanero

  you seriously need to look into the history of catalonia.

  one way or another, you believe the decisions made in large parts by a dead dictator (Franco) are more important than the will of the people.
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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  hothabanero

  I am hearing a lot of legalistic mumbo-jumbo. sure, let us for all eternity be ruled by what changes Franco made to catalonias status because Francos opinion on the matter is much more important than the ppl who actually live there.

  BTW what right did india have to secede from the United Kingdom? surely we should undo all the unlawfulness that occurred when colonialism ended lol.
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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  hothabanero

  Catalan land belongs to ...
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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  hothabanero

  yah and britain belongs to the EU so lets send in the troops to quell the unrest...

  A country belongs to its people. you are thinking like a statist and a globalist.
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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  hothabanero

  On what grounds should Spain give Catalonians independence since Catalonian ground belongs to Spain?

  you keep thinking what is written on some document is more important than the will of the people in a democracy. in a democracy what matters is what ppl vote for IMO.
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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  hothabanero

  @Fisherman: In a democracy, what matters is the will of the people and not legislation.

  The idea ppls democratic right of self-determination should be secondary to laws made by ppl living far away is what gave us EU and all the other globalist crap. Pure fascism IMO.
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  Independent Catalonia

  by mikeflood in

  1. social
  2. current

  it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

  it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

  since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
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  hothabanero

  @slimboy: The EU is run by globalists. They want to smash and punish Catalonia far more than any spanish politician.

  The last thing globalists want is that ppl realize that they can decide for themselves in a democracy (see Brexit...).