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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  On a more serious note...

  You purposefully write my name wrong to piss me off or whatever ... and at the same time you tell me I cannot use a common abbreviation bc you don't like it.

  You see the problem?
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  What can I say, I have seen many times that people who believe in darwinism say it is proven without saying that some parts of it is proven and other parts are not...

  Just so you don't have a stroke: by "proven" I mean "proven beyond all reasonable doubt" and "darwinism" I mean "evolution".

  Please stop saying 'lol'.

  Then stop saying things that are so damn funny! BTW telling me what I can and cannot say IS damn funny!

  
  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  Here is my post for easy reference. Tell me what part of it you find objectionable.. asides the fact you know better than wikipedia about darwinism (LOL)

  my 2c: the problem is ppl who believe in darwinism fail to acknowledge darwinism is many things -- some are proven beyond all reasonable doubt, other things are very speculative. so saying it is all proven to be true is really overstating the evidence, and similarly when a creationist say it is all doubtful he too is overstating the evidence. IMO thats why so much of the discussion is not useful.

  
  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  NOBODY EVER claimed everything about evolution is already known or proven

  Jesus Christ that was my damn point, that it was wrong to say everything about evolution was known and that mistake lead to many problems.

  So after all the name calling you agree with me... lol...
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  and now you are down voting my post where I answered your questions without finding a single factually wrong thing about it! the lolz oh the sweet sweet lolz... :-).

  UPDATED: another downvote! From now on I will upvote your posts so you feel better bro! Perhaps you will feel so happy you will have a reasoned discussion?
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  me: some are proven beyond all reasonable doubt, other things are very speculative

  you: For example?
  

  me: (provide examples)

  you: question examples

  me: (explain my examples)

  you: Do you have a Ph.D in stating the bloody obvious?

  jesus.. I was just answering your damn question and you are not happy!

  Are you always this upset with other people?

  You seem like all you want is to get into some debate and "win" it. Are you unhappy or something???
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  Apparently I do in this instance.

  lol, you know better than wikipedia! I have heard it all now!

  What do you mean by 'human thought' exactly?

  abstract symbolic reasoning, consciousness, etc. etc.

  wait a moment, are you going to ask me to define these terms endlessly to duck the question?

  The fact of evolution is not dependant on abiogenesis.

  You got a reading comprehension issue. I said the DEVELOPMENT of early life, not origin.

  Try again.

  What about the evolution of flowers?

  It is an area of active research in evolutionary theory with many open questions. Google it for more information.

  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4905540/

  The origin of the flower was a key innovation in the history of complex organisms, dramatically altering Earth’s biota. Advances in phylogenetics, developmental genetics, and genomics during the past 25 years have substantially advanced our understanding of the evolution of flowers, yet crucial aspects of floral evolution remain, ...

  I believe in evolution, but I am correct there are many open questions, and I hope you are convinced of that now as well. Otherwise I will be happy to provide more information...
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  Darwinism doesn't exist.

  fact check: false

  "Darwinism is a theory of biological evolution developed by the English naturalist Charles Darwin (1809–1882)"

  But sure you know better than wikipedia lol

  For example?

  The origin of human thought, for instance.

  The development of very early life, for instance.

  The evolution of flowers, for instance.

  Or perhaps you know how these things happened???

  See, when you just read a bunch of popular book about evolution everything looks very simple. When you look beneath the surface it is more complicated.

  Why are you telling me that?

  bc your point was that creationists cite ppl with degrees in philosophy...

  they cite ppl with degrees in philosophy, and ppl with degrees in biology.

  
  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  cofty: man you got some elder in you... I even wrote I updated my post bc I made a mistake and you are not happy!

  See I acknowledged my mistake, perhaps YOU can acknowledge that SOMETIMES ppl who do not believe in evolution cite scientists with real degrees like BEHE?

  Or perhaps you are truly the one amongst us with no faults lol :-).
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  Calling Cofty and others regarding evolution

  by dubstepped in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.

  i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.

  i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.

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  hothabanero

  my 2c: the problem is ppl who believe in darwinism fail to acknowledge darwinism is many things -- some are proven beyond all reasonable doubt, other things are very speculative. so saying it is all proven to be true is really overstating the evidence, and similarly when a creationist say it is all doubtful he too is overstating the evidence. IMO thats why so much of the discussion is not useful.

  it is like climate science: nobody doubt the earth has warmed in this century somewhat.. but global warming believers then goes on to say it is known humans are behind this and the trend will just continue unless we do all kinds of crazy things. this is really overstating the evidence a lot.