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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  It is so hilarious that Lloyd signs every post :D I agree, Kim.

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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Lloyd is a predator with a platform. He needs to be called out. Also like JWBelieves said, don't do it on the cost of your mental health. We need to learn from it so in future we don't fall for people like Lloyd Evans anymore or Jimmy Snow and all the other wordy people. There are sadly too many in any part of life. Particular us women need to learn to see the signs of an abusive man. Of course there are also abusive women. Us women are sadly still more likely to be in position with less influence than men are. We need to remember that Lloyd Evans isn't the only predator with some influence and need to try to call the predators out anywhere we can.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I really wonder how Lloyd Evan's reaction would have been if Djana would have payed and slept with many different men in the time of their marriage. It is hard to believe he would have taken the relaxed attitude he expects from everybody towards his own behaviour.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I am sure Lloyd Evans never satisfied a woman in bed the slightest ever. He strikes me as the panting walrus that is finished in a minute, rolling off to the side afterwards asking the women if she enjoyed it because he actually believes that they had good intercourse.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  https://archive.org/details/lloyd-evans-april-3-2008
  

  Anyone know a digital forensics expert?

  This is so alarming. Lloyd Evans is fully aware that it is illegal what he is doing. How do you convince your wife that you are not this type of person https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia after she finding out about this conversation?
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lloyd_Evans

  Lloyd Evans made somebody write his Wikipedia page in Croatian.

  This forum also slipped almost out of the first page when searching Lloyd Evans. Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans, Lloyd Evans. I'm not sure how many are needed.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  @LMsA

  thank you for your information, I think you are right. It makes sense that Lloyd does not get other people to give him content for the jwwatch.org site. Therefore he does not receive enough income through the site to pay for the cost of it.

  What does that say about how much help he received before he stumbled over his own insanely huge ego? He must have received so much FREE help. I hope all the helpers are accumulating on safer platforms for them to continue their good work against the Watchtower.

  When using someone's platform on Youtube for your cause you simultaneously give them content and you improve their image. I am thinking about the two women who are on Lloyd Evans's recent live stream. Yes, Lloyd still has a platform on Youtube that might help your cause but do you really want to help him polish his image and help him to pretend to care for abuse survivors?
  
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  Gotcha. I thought they were asking about the twitter account.

  :) yes it was the website I was wondering about because Lloyd Evans used it as credentials as slimboyfat already mentioned. Did Lloyd use those credentials as well for this years meeting? I asked because I tried to figure out if it meant much as credential for Lloyd. Is 'window dressing' the right description of what Lloyd is doing?

  How much actual activism is Lloyd Evans really doing?

  Slimboyfat, I do believe that there are many people who follow Lloyd Evans who are not aware of what Lloyd did. If Lloyd blocked you, that means anybody who tries to speak up against him, you can not see Lloyd replying to your tweet. So Lloyd is participating in the conversation and talks to the others he did not block and makes you look like a troll. Many people probably still believe him. That means we can not stop to educate people about what type of man he is otherwise he starts to build up his image as CSA activist again.
  
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  Thank you Diogenesister for sharing the minutes from All party Parliamentary group on Safeguarding in Faith communities meeting. Although it is from 2021 I do believe it is very helpful to contact people who attended. We also could contact the people who attended this year when the minutes are made public. I believe people should know about Lloyd Evans.

  I also realised that Lloyd Evans is listed on the minutes presenting JWwatch. The website link on their Twitter account works but when the site opens it is suspended. I believe we also need to see what Lloyd Evans is sharing on that Twitter account because it has also over 3000 followers. Does anybody know why the site is suspended?
  
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  I wonder which of Lloyd Evans' morals moves him to advocate for mandatory reporting to official authorities in religious groups and the JWs organisation in particular? Is it something like 'Every person has the right of protection of the integrity of their own body'? I don't know which exact moral he has but it must be something similar to this. Or has he got no morals and his activism is all about virtue signalling?
  

  I am also thinking, his activism is not just about mandatory reporting of CSA but also adults who were coerced into staying silent just to protect the community/religion they were in. Lloyd Evans interviewed adult women who were coerced from their religious group to stay silent about their abuse. They were coerced into letting the religious group they were in, deal internally with the allegations. He made us think he cared deeply about the peoples right of protection of the integrity of their own body. Their right to report to the authorities. Their right that worldly consequences happen to the person who harmed them.
  

  In Thailand the sex workers have no rights. SW is illegal and therefore there is no legal framework for them. How are they supposed to report to the police without incriminating themselves? It doesn't matter in which position they are in. If they are trafficked, they most likely have their passport taken away and are controlled by their pimps to make them money. If they are under age, do they have the assertiveness to tell the people they have sex with where their limits are? Will the people listen? And when they become adults, did they ever learn how to be assertive? How can Lloyd Evans distinguish between the different situation the women are in? Is he asking if they are trafficked? Is he asking how desperate their situation is and evaluates then if he uses them?
  

  Some women might have been able to start SW as adults. They might have made the decision between the possibility to earn little in a legal job or earn more with SW. But that's the only choice they are given by their society. Most likely they also have their parents to support and maybe their own children. Why is Lloyd Evans choosing to buy sex of women who are in such weak positions? If one of his excuses is to 'help' them, he can give his money to charities who support SWs to get an education to move away from SW into a legal job. How does this fit with his value that people should have the right of protection of the integrity of their own body?

  I believe Lloyd Evans chooses women in weak positions because it is unlikely that they reject his money and therefore him and his wishes. If he would be emotionally and morally developed he wouldn't find it sexually arousing to be with women half his age and with no rights in their society AND dependent on his money. This all speaks so much against any sincere value he could possibly have that moves him to advocating for abuse survivors in religious groups.
  

  Does this make Lloyd Evans any different to the predators who enter religions to abuse women because they know they will have no legal consequences? I don't think so. His excuse that they were over 18 and they agreed to exchange sex for money doesn't mean much in this instance. They have nowhere to go to report when they were harmed. They are entirely dependent on Lloyd Evans' good will. This is also the case in many other countries. He does seem to care about the abuse in the JW org but not the abuse of SWs he had intercourse with. Why is he not helping them? Instead he pays them to fulfill his fantasies.

  If he is not aware of this discrepancy in his behaviour then he is extremely immature and shouldn't be in any way close to abuse survivors because he could do more harm then good. And if he is aware of this discrepancy but tries to gaslight us, then he is outright dangerous to his environment. I believe it is a mix of both. Why should we believe he treats his SWs with respect when he treats Dijana so appallingly and is so manipulative towards her?

  I'm sorry that this is so long. I hope it is clear enough to read. I think the discussion about morals is very interesting. I hope it could make the people who defend Lloyd Evans understand a bit better why people want him to step back from is activism.