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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Is Jonathan Evans as controlling as Lloyd?
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I believe Dijana gets away well in the letter. She is dealing with a bad situation, she is aware she would not have married Lloyd in hindsight. Imagine to have to deal with this as a young bride. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_sexual_behaviour_disorder What I see in the letter is a woman who tries her best to understand and be proactive in a difficult situation with a narcissist who constantly undermines her. Lloyd constantly tries to blur the things she tries to tell him as if she gets it wrong all the time.
  

  I would wish Dijana that she managed to have much more distance between him and her. She working for him or he just using her name for tax purposes can not be good for her at all. If she does it because of money or she really believes she has to support him, who knows...she is still somehow in his grip. If she has enough time to heal from his narcissistic abuse she hopefully gets the healthy distance she needs for her and her daughters. It would help Dijana would take a stand publicly somehow. Maybe she covering for Lloyd helps her to have some leverage over him?
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Those letters are hard to stomach. Thank you for making them public.

  I was wondering and sorry if I go on a bit about this but we could think about what people would put in the search box on Twitter or Google. That are the words we need to add to the tweet so the tweet will pop up when people search to find out more about the situation. I believe 'defamation' combined with 'Lloyd Evans' is probably what people search for. We want to reach the people who don't know yet so it is not enough to only share a link, that will most likely only be read and found by people who follow you. If you have any other ideas write it here so we all can use them.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I agree with everyone who said that information about Lloyd needs to be succinct, not too long, factual and with little emotion. Lloyd's followers who buy into the claim that Lloyd is defamed by 'crazy' xJWs will feel validated when the information is presented with excessive anger, hate and shouting. Of course the anger about Lloyd is very understandable at the same time it is not useful presenting it when trying to convince people of the facts.
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  I agree with everyone. Also tweets about Lloyd Evans have to have written '#Lloyd Evans' '#lloydgate' '#cedarsjwsurvey' written in, since that is what people search for when they look for Lloyd Evans. That is how people who don't follow you and search for him find the tweet with your important information about him in the tweet.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  raymond frantz said 'I'm gobsmacked, there is no words to describe how I feel. Many exjws obviously don't care about child sex abuse, CSA abuse, or some turning the community to a business enterprise.'

  I also don't believe that the people who pay Lloyd Evans don't care. Some probably really don't care other fall for his lies. When Lloyd says: 'People are racist for thinking that I went to Thailand for the SWs.' people think, 'I am not racist, therefore I have to stop thinking that Lloyd went to Thailand to buy sex.' They want to be good people and the framework they put on that is Lloyd's opinions. Is this the thought stopping that cults do?
  

  Isn't it always dangerous to live after someone else's perceived moral standards? With Lloyd's audience this makes him really a bit a cult leader, with less reach he would be a dangerous friend to have. It all gets worse with Lloyd's readiness to cut people off in a heart beat. People are scared to get on people's bad side. That's why I think the clip where Lloyd talks about 'dating a sex worker' in Thailand should be everywhere and always handy to share.
  
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  576 Patreons are a tiny part of the whole xJW community. Kim, if you stop, there will be less variety on information and people might be more likely to fall for Lloyd's lies. Isn't the 'end game' of this blog to inform people and build a welcoming home for people who learn about Lloyd Evans? Lloyd is, like many malignant narcissists are, difficult to get rid off fast. Lloyd will keep having his narcissistic rages and out of proportion dreams of success. He probably feels emboldened now and is willing to pump more money into the law suits. Isn't he just like the one blue bottle fly that keeps bumping again and again into the glass of the window,? Instead of getting out at the open part of the window 2cm away?
  
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  Lloyd is such a numpty
  
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  I'm not sure what Borg Off's point is, if I am honest. His calculations of how many people exited the JW because of COC or Lloyd's videos makes no sense. How can he know what they read or watched or thought during their way out? Lloyd Evans does not have a free card to behave how he does because some of his videos might have helped in the thought process of someone wanting to leave the JWs.

  Lloyd is in real life in contact with vulnerable people, like many on this site already explained. He tries to manipulate them to give him money so he can keep manipulate his family and have sex with more vulnerable women. If say a person who produced something similar like CoC would have behaved like Lloyd does, wouldn't you want to warn the people around him to spend their money elsewhere? If you need to buy the book buy it but don't start shoving free money towards him. And the comparison with RF doesn't fit anyway because Lloyd sees himself, or at least he puts up the image, that he is an advocate for CSA and SA. I don't know if RF ever did that. So there will be and were many CSA survivors who support Lloyd with money out of their own pocket and Lloyd goes off to Thailand to abuse probably quite young vulnerable women there with their money. Isn't that outrages to everyone?
  

  Has anybody watched the IICSA videos? Many religious organisation, as we all know and Lloyd knows very well, cover up CSA because they don't want the religion or organisation look bad. If Lloyd is fighting against that why not hold Lloyd to his own standard? Nothing Lloyd Evans did needs to be covered up for the greater good. Absolutely nothing. If Lloyd has less influence because he is criticised then so be it. Others have already stepped up and more will step up. It will be good to have more variety and different views anyway.