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Lloyd, you're on your way to becoming the monster. The attempts to silence your critics, the focus on you as the leader, the emphasis on money in your ministry have all the hallmarks of a cult. I know, you're an atheist, I assume you don't think of yourself has having a ministry. But your methods are just like the missionaries in the church I used to attend. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...
As sad as it is to say, I couldn't agree with your opinion more.
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I also wonder what happened to the other guy from Romania, which I actually never liked and never understood why was he often a guest, besides the fact that he was friend with Lloyd.
Arthur is the Romanian guy. He is still around. He has close connections in an online group that discuss information regarding the WT. This information is valuable to Lloyd.
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Lloyd loves to remind everyone that "all he's guilty of is being a flawed individual", in order to diminish what he's done.
If you happen to see Lloyd making that excuse for me could you please let me know.....what is it you say....he hasnt.....oh ok, I see how that works. Being a flawed individual only applies to him as an excuse....GOT IT.....
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I would be curious to know what Kim Silvio thinks of this assertation since she has made comments and videos about what Lloyd is earning
Firstly, I found Paul's comment regarding "there is very little to be made out the exJW community" extremely uncomfortable. I can only conclude that his intention and my interpretation of this statement is massively varied.
Secondly, regarding his financials in 2017-2018, I have no idea I was still a JW at that time. I would suspect it is a case of Paul either having been given the impression as to what Lloyd's income was from Lloyd and therefore speaking on that basis, or simply Paul making assumptions. I don't know, but its an interesting thread to read, thanks for pointing it out.
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You have said quite a few different things to me and several others on different social media platforms, and you keep contradicting yourself!
IT IS YOU WHO SHOULD STOP LYING!
Please tell me what I’ve lied or contradicted myself about. I genuinely am happy to discuss this, but calling me names and shouting at me isn’t helpful.
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I'm willing to bet that Tibor is paid based on the cheaper end of the local going rate in local Croatian currency, not a proportion of the income based on the relative effort he contributes.
I am willing to agree with that bet 👍
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Lloyd Evans has traded on the respectability others gave him, to cover up his appalling treatment of others, from the beginning. There is still a video on his channel celebrating “10 years” where Paul Grundy is the main cheerleader. A lot of the people in the video, probably the majority, have now distanced themselves from Lloyd Evans, but it’s still up there. Maybe if Paul Grundy asked for it to be removed then it would come down.
I’m ashamed to say that I produced that video and am in it…..the minute I found out about lloyd, it was the first thing I thought about. It still makes me sick to think about it.
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Lloyd is now banging on about “people obsessing with his past” on Twitter….seriously? Firstly if that’s the “past” I can’t speak English and secondly I will have something to say if he wants people to believe it’s his past…..draw your own conclusions on that one!
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IMO beware of any who are the latest ‘flavor of the month
Also 100% agree with that!!!! I also think we need to be slow to put our hands in our pockets….we don’t HAVE to financially support anyone. We can if we want, but we don’t have to. I’ve seen so many comments about people wanting to “move their financial support to xxx person”…..why?
If an individual makes the decision to undertake activism work that’s their choice and must be prepared to fund it. If people want to help with some of the expenses great, if people get ad revenue for their videos, great….if people want to be patrons great….but we don’t have to. That’s my 2 cents 👍
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Lloyd Evans\John Cedars whoever you are, some of us aren't going to let go of this.
100%
