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The answer to that is he is taking advantage of exited cult members who were already conditioned to give their money to a "higher cause".
He has the same moral scruples of someone dealing drugs outside a rehab facility.
My moral scruples are dropping by the minute.....I was trying to be fair in what I said about him.....but the more I hear the less I care....
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I'm now including LE in that as well. I don't know about Croatia and other countries, but in the US he would be treading on thin ice with some of his dealings. If you have an internet source for his financial information, I'd love to take a look at it.
Hi Jeff, It is nice to meet you too. Please see link below regarding Lloyd's financials. Note - his company is called Ipsilon Media. You have to register to access the information which is very standard etc and the search is fiddly so make sure you pick the right year (ie this financial year). If you have any trouble please let me know.
These are the Croatian documents, there are documents going back about 5 years in the UK system however they aren't relevant as far as I can see, however if you are interested please let me know and I will send you further information.
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I sent you a DM but I don't know if it worked, I am not IT literate and just learning how to use the forum.....
I am so sorry, I dont have one in my inbox either, I must have done something wrong....do you have twitter?
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Not in public. DM me if interested
I sent you a DM but I don't know if it worked, I am not IT literate and just learning how to use the forum.....
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It was spoken of briefly on this thread:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5682940001386496/charging-150-tell-your-stories?page=14
More detail was discussed on this Spanish exJW forum:
https://extj.co/foro/showthread.php?tid=1092&page=5
Don't know if you can understand Spanish, but they go back and forth there with many still blindly supporting him though it's clear he's just using their free labour and goodwill.
How are you OG's in this forum not bat shit crazy sitting in a padded cell to protect yourselves! This is insanity!!! He was going to get FREE OF CHARGE, his book translated into Spanish - which would have sold god knows how many copies, but he wouldn't give away a few free copies in English.....for a book that he was funded to produce by the community, pocketed and continues to pocket 100% of the profit and the community that funded it had to buy their own copies....right....Am I living in the twilight zone? How has he been allowed to do this?
As someone who supported his work so heavily I had no idea of all of this bs, and I have HAPPILY worked to support him free of charge as I had no idea of the business empire he has been building under the guise of an "activist"......this is some serious "WT SHIT" (said jerry springer style). And for the record, this IS NOT MY OPINION ITS A FACT. So if your reading this Lloyd - sue me if you think I am making shit up - I welcome the opportunity to discuss this in a public forum where your Cedarites cannot tell me this is none of our business. If this is the case, YOU SIR can never speak about WT again.
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You are actually following the woman on Twitter who set up the book signing event for him.
What?? Who is it?
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Get ready for a JLE victim twitter tirade from him after he sees all of this KIM. I think it will be sadly and hilariously embarrassing for him.
Your probably right, I really don't care anymore, I just appreciate the space to speak without the cedarites trying to shout me down. If it disturbs the forum's peace to much, I am happy to stop.
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He also crowdfunded for the Spanish translation of TRA. The translators were unpaid volunteers so he pocketed the cash. Lloyd insisted the translators have experience in that field and wanted them to submit their CV.
This I also did not know. Was it ever spoken of publicly? I would be happy to advertise this rubbish on Twitter because people NEED to understand the past, it's not ok to let this keep happening. THIS IS EVERYONE's BUSINESS
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Marc had to help Dijana with taking the pram carefully to the stairs as there was no lift. Lloyd found out there were just sitting at a table and wanted a podium for himself. He was upset.
Yes I found out about this situation a few months ago which is consistent with how Lloyd behaved when he was in Australia.
A subscriber of his arranged the entire thing. When she met Lloyd she asked if she could see the book but he refused, telling her she needed to purchase it. Also Lloyd insisted on a cover charge to get near him which was news to the coffee shop management as they were not notified and it was against their policy as they were allowing him there for free. Lloyd worried that he would run out of pens for the signing.
Please tell me your joking.....omg I feel sick, how embarrassing.....really? Firstly, you can go into a book store and look, touch and read a book before you buy it....Secondly, a cover charge? Come on...your joking right? Does JK Rowling even require a cover charge at a book signing? Who does this bloke think he is?
It frustrates me so much as I have learnt these things. I cannot help but think that his actions are calculated and deliberate. It makes me firm in my belief that he deliberately created a monopoly and is now taking advantage of vulnerable people to benefit himself and create an empire.....in other words 'watchtower' style.....And yes just like WT - he shuns, he disfellowships those who speak against him, he manipulates information, he shouts down opposition and threatens people that they will lose their community if they speak against him.....I could go on, but I feel I am preaching to the choir in here......Such a relief, honestly, I cannot thank you all enough for letting me speak without fear. Its therapeutic
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By the way, what’s happened to gracious Tibor?
Hello fellow Aussie (oi oi oi, sorry just had to add that) I hated the livestreams because they talked about Donald Trump to much and honestly it became a brown nosing exercise.....and I wasn't playing those stupid games.
As for Tibor, I am not sure. Tibor is a LOVELY guy but was financially dependent on Lloyd and obviously had financial commitments to meet in his personal life (as we all do). Initially he was ok, however when I went public he made it clear that he was not happy with me and we haven't spoken since.
