KIMSILVIO

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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  KIMSILVIO

  Kim Silvio, thank you for clarifying.
  

  Your welcome
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  So he called you crazy and simple people who don't understand how congregations conduct business.
  

  It’s comments like these from Mark that make me uncomfortable. Imagine if Mark didn’t have that large platform and was trying to get information out, the same information he distributes now, and a person with a bigger platform came out and rubbished his efforts?

  Where would that leave us as a community? In business this type of behaviour is normal as it’s competition but is our community and activism work about competition? Don’t we need as many people out sharing information as possible?

  Ok let’s all call Kim and mike crazy and “tin foil hat wearers”….. ok, now what? Go back and look at their videos. They have at least TRIED to get information out to the community as best they can on what’s happening and will correct anything they may say that isn’t correct.

  Their continued efforts in spite of the years worth of I’ll treatment clearly demonstrates to me their love for the community and individuals leaving the cult.

  Motivation and intentions matter to me, responsible use of influence matters to me. I don’t always agree with Kim and mike’s opinion however I respect the fact that they try.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Kim, you mentioned in one of your first comments a distrust of Mark O'Donnell. This isn't the first time you've brought this up. Will you elaborate, please?
  

  
  In one of the WTIF episodes make explained a fairly simple legal term to me. At the time I found it odd as I would have thought it reasonable to assume that I knew this so I couldn’t understand why Mark was explaining it to me.
  Behind the scenes Mark and I have had “difficult interactions” regarding the JW Watch website and the writing team. Mark berated the efforts of three of the new writers in the team, complained that their work wasn’t up to the standard of his work (not his exact words but my summary of his opinion) and prevented a lot of information being shared with the community.
  it is my opinion that Mark’s interest is in his promotion, not the promotion of information being shared. Mark hampered the opportunity for people hearing many views and opinions, information from many sources and a variety of topics.
  I find this extremely disingenuous. Why do we need a few controlling information and being the spokespersons? He likes to get information out to the community, which is great, but why does he restrict others from getting information out too?
  Mark has a terrible habit of downplaying or rubbish if the efforts of others in their activism. Kim and Mikey are a classic example of this. They posted a congregation letter once (my memory is vague of what correspondence it was) and Mark felt the need to berate them about their efforts by making a comment to the effect that it was “old news” and “irrelevant”. Why do that? So many new people enter the community and probably didn’t see it. What’s the harm in getting the information out again?
  in more recent times, I have found Marks comments in his statement about Lloyd to be irresponsible. How can he issue a statement which includes (amongst other things) his confirmation that the CSA allegations against lloyd are false. How does he know this? How do any of us know this?
  The fact is there was an allegation, it was reported to the police and they will decide whether lloyd has a case to answer. It is not for the “men in charge” to tell the congregation (or anyone for that matter) what is fact. As an advocate, and someone who has high regard in the community I found his statement to be irresponsible.
  And why did Mark need to include me in his statement? Was it not to publicly admonish me? Why would he do that?
  From my observations and experiences, Mark is all about Mark. Controlling the flow of information and monopolizing segments of the community is wrong. Feeding information to people rather than empowering them to be independent researchers and thinkers is wrong. Mark has never once (to my knowledge) ever explained to people his exact role in these court cases. He has never once (to my knowledge) ever explained to people where he gets legal documents from and that they can find these documents themselves without having to wait for Mark to feed them the information.
  I do not trust a man, or woman for that matter, who’s interests are in self promotion and self importance.
  These are my experiences and opinions because I was asked. I respect that many will disagree with me and that’s their right.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  KIM, can I ask you ,do you know what really happened in Texas.. He was very vague about it, do you have any details ? the only think he talk about was "pictures" on is phone is wife saw... Is one of them him singing the walk of life... Does anybody seen him singing that song in Houston?
  

  I only know from Lloyd that "it didn't involve anyone from the ExJW community. I did see a little bit of talk of his involvement with an activist that was at the texas gig but that's only chatter, I don't know anything in certain terms.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  The answer to that is he is taking advantage of exited cult members who were already conditioned to give their money to a "higher cause".

  He has the same moral scruples of someone dealing drugs outside a rehab facility.

  My moral scruples are dropping by the minute.....I was trying to be fair in what I said about him.....but the more I hear the less I care....
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I'm now including LE in that as well. I don't know about Croatia and other countries, but in the US he would be treading on thin ice with some of his dealings. If you have an internet source for his financial information, I'd love to take a look at it.
  

  Hi Jeff, It is nice to meet you too. Please see link below regarding Lloyd's financials. Note - his company is called Ipsilon Media. You have to register to access the information which is very standard etc and the search is fiddly so make sure you pick the right year (ie this financial year). If you have any trouble please let me know.

  https://t.co/1gxQpEPc8M

  These are the Croatian documents, there are documents going back about 5 years in the UK system however they aren't relevant as far as I can see, however if you are interested please let me know and I will send you further information.
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  KIMSILVIO

  I sent you a DM but I don't know if it worked, I am not IT literate and just learning how to use the forum.....
  

  I am so sorry, I dont have one in my inbox either, I must have done something wrong....do you have twitter?
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  KIMSILVIO

  Not in public. DM me if interested
  

  I sent you a DM but I don't know if it worked, I am not IT literate and just learning how to use the forum.....
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  KIMSILVIO

  It was spoken of briefly on this thread:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5682940001386496/charging-150-tell-your-stories?page=14

  More detail was discussed on this Spanish exJW forum:

  https://extj.co/foro/showthread.php?tid=1092&page=5
  

  Don't know if you can understand Spanish, but they go back and forth there with many still blindly supporting him though it's clear he's just using their free labour and goodwill.

  How are you OG's in this forum not bat shit crazy sitting in a padded cell to protect yourselves! This is insanity!!! He was going to get FREE OF CHARGE, his book translated into Spanish - which would have sold god knows how many copies, but he wouldn't give away a few free copies in English.....for a book that he was funded to produce by the community, pocketed and continues to pocket 100% of the profit and the community that funded it had to buy their own copies....right....Am I living in the twilight zone? How has he been allowed to do this?

  As someone who supported his work so heavily I had no idea of all of this bs, and I have HAPPILY worked to support him free of charge as I had no idea of the business empire he has been building under the guise of an "activist"......this is some serious "WT SHIT" (said jerry springer style). And for the record, this IS NOT MY OPINION ITS A FACT. So if your reading this Lloyd - sue me if you think I am making shit up - I welcome the opportunity to discuss this in a public forum where your Cedarites cannot tell me this is none of our business. If this is the case, YOU SIR can never speak about WT again.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  KIMSILVIO

  You are actually following the woman on Twitter who set up the book signing event for him.
  

  What?? Who is it?