Who else would have had the same viewpoint as me?
I think there are lots of people who experienced the same as you. Xx
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Who else would have had the same viewpoint as me?
I think there are lots of people who experienced the same as you. Xx
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I have wondered this many times. Why did he tell you Kim? What did he hope to accomplish or get out of it?
Lloyd told me once in a zoom call and there were other bits and pieces after that call but I didn’t want to discuss the subject as I was in shock about the whole thing. There are lots of people who have ideas about why he told me, but the truth is that I don’t know. 🤷♀️
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I suspect his biggest change would be not to tell me.
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This screenshot actually makes me cranky - for the first time in a long time - he never expected “such a significant % of ex-JWs to so easily flip to being judgmental & self-righteous.”
Fuck you Lloyd. Exjw’s didn’t flip, they thought for themselves.
Stop attempting to garner sympathy from vulnerable people by comparing your bullshit to “the cult”.
You didn’t think about handling anything differently because you are so used to everyone (including me), buying your brand of bullshit no questions asked. You are so used to bullying those who don’t fall into step and that large % drowning out the ones who didn’t agree with you.
The only thing you should have “handled very differently” is your responsibility to your wife, children and those you “advocate for”. Your actions and lack of responsibility put you in this position - not the majority of the community.
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Not Lloyd?? It's the sort of thing he would do, were they told by Lloyd to do it?
As far as I’m aware, he had nothing to do with it from beginning until it was known to the public - and that was only after it was made known to the public that he commented adversely about Jake.
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threatening to expose Jake is definitely NOT Lloyd,
I echo this position. It is definitely not lloyd.
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Saying it loudly for the people in the back: IF LLOYD HAD HAD AN AFFAIR, NONE OF YOU WOULD KNOW.
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Lloyd may never come to this realization
Based on what I’ve seen in the last 10+ months, I think the above quote is quite accurate. I don’t believe he will ever change. He doesn’t want to.
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Thank you for your reply. Upon reviewing your video I do remember it now.
I respect everyone’s right to an opinion, about me, how I disclosed, what I said, the words I used and whether or not I should have used any words at all.
I put information out so that everyone could make an informed decision for themself.
That time was very stressful and upon reflection I too would handle the situation differently. I did the best I could at that time and have to be at peace knowing it was my best.
I remember feeling quite upset when this video came out as I was being attacked from every angle at the time and was doing my best to try and answer peoples questions, to be understanding and patient.
The fact that this conversation happened and immediately produced into a video unsettled me and I remember feeling as though I couldn’t trust anyone, which made me feel very alone.
I am very open and honest about my mental health, am well medicated and have had extensive therapy - 99% of this journey being completed before this year. My disclosure had nothing to do with my mental state.
Being concerned for someone’s mental state and immediately posting that conversation on YouTube probably isn’t in the “how to behave when you’re concerned for someone’s mental state” guide book.
I will close by saying that remembering this video has upset me. It reminds me of the period of time that I would like to forget.
I have wonderful friends and this wonderful community. I hope we all learn lessons from this year in the community. 💗
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If you go after Kim you go after me too!
That’s very kind of you x